please see my reply to your other post about listing what you have for trade as well as getting your Member Page email link set up.

Hey thanks for the tip on the light needs, Ray. I will move the plant. Lots of people have traded plants. In fact there is an "exchange" page to this forum, link on the main page. I traded away all my Vandas a couple years ago and was quite happy with the experience. I've got a ton of stuff I want to trade but in my case, I mostly want Angraecoids in return, and they're not that common. Plus once people get some, they tend to become favorite plants and thus not trade fodder. So i'm pretty well stuck with my Onc. species and Paph hybrids and NOID phals. :( Andy has some nice Angs. He has Amesiella monticola which everyone should have. He has an amazing selection of cloud forest types, i.e. Masdies, Dracs, Lepanthes, Barbosellas, Scaphs, etc. etc. I'd be shocked if anyone couldn't find at least four or five plants to order. That place is pretty much nirvana for species snobs. -MB

RedTurtle - you got that right! I remember the first time I learned that lesson, about cutting WAY back. About 30 years ago, I had this nice plain green spider plant. Loved it. Well, as it aged, it got very brown edges, probably from fertilizer salts. Well, it looked awful, but I loved it and rather than toss it without any effort to revive it, I took sissors and chopped everything off at the soil line and gave it some new soil. Within a couple weeks, there were new leaves emerging from the soil. Within a year, it looked like a million bucks! It taught me to never fear whacking a plant clean back to the soil. Now and then, I lose one (probably because I waited too long to whack...), but usually, it comes back with a vengence. Cindy - I struggle with imperialis, too. I restarted it last year and it went south again this winter. So I whacked it back and am trying to start cuttings, which aren't looking too hot as yet. But I do see signs of new growth on the stump. I just don't get it, I guess... I'm with you - I want it to grow for me SO bad! Dang thing! Which may prove I'm NOT a veteran! Ok, I'll accept "honorary veteran" because I surely have to be one of those who have been TRYING to master these plants the longest. We see Norma on here now and then, and I know she's been growing a lot longer than me, though I'm not sure about Hoyas specifically. Are you out there Norma? Tell us how long you've been growing Hoyas... Denise in Omaha

Yup - they change a bit depending on the conditions - plus the dotted ones - like your pink one - each flower is different.