Barbra I do not remember which member talked about the peanut germination method. All I remember is that Karyn used biodegradeble ones, without knowing that they were and they dissolved and all got mixed up :-( All you do is cut a slit in the peanut. Insert the seed so the bottom immerses into the water. Which is warm and in a shallow container. I did change the water but they germinate real fast. After they had germinated I planted them in a container. That is how I grew mine out. I am with Bob. When you grow them from seeds, you get so many interesting growing Plumeria's!! From Pictures for GW friends I love this one. Just because it is totally different from all the other seedlings. From Pictures for GW friends If you can not find the thread about the peanuts...I can do a search. Lucy

Deb the deer have not jumped the fence in a long time...toi toi toi. That is german for knock on wood hahahaha But I had one in the yard one time and he was corned. From almost standing in front of the wooden fence he climbed it and went over it to escape from me. So I KNOW if they want to, they will come! lol Kristy I always make sure that they get something to eat on the OTHER side of the fence. They loved my carrots that did not grow well in my dirt lol Karyn I have NO idea what Dat that is. But in the cooler weather now it really blooms a lot bigger and ´prettier and the smell is very nice. When I got the seeds on e bay it said, double purple Dat only. Hence that is where my disappointment came in at first that I did not have those gorgeous purple Dats. If you like to try this one I can send you some seeds?! About the deer...no thanks lol. I just love them when they leave my plants alone. In the front that is harder to keep them from eating everything. But I am thinking. They trim down the fig tree and fruit that is hanging over the fence. They will regret it a bit lol If we would not live withing city limits I would invite Deb and her husband to come over. We ALL would have a ball lol Bob thanks. I heard the RING you know. But I am a slow typer hahahahahahaha I love your remark about the fence and the deer. That is how I feel. My paradise could be a lot further if they did not eat EVERYTHING the first spring and summer I was back in TX and had NO gate up and they just walked right up to the dinnerplate. Time to go and do what we all have to do to keep our gardens happy. Have a wonderful day everybody Lucy

When I was a little girl, a long, long time ago, I thought every suburban dweller had a backyard veggie garden. I can remember my granddad going out to his garden in the morning to pick bell peppers, tomatoes, onions - whatever was ripe - to chop up and add to his scrambled eggs. My grandmother, I am convinced, had not only green thumbs but green fingers and toes as well! Granddad got the back fence for his veggies, but Nana got everything else for her flowers. Along the sides of the back fence and every wall of the house she had flowers. Her name was Rose, and she grew roses in every color possible for roses, along with hydrangeas, azaleas, peonies, zinnias, irises (which she took to shows, she was a member of the local Iris Society), even florist-type carnations one year, and many more I can now barely remember. My stepdad grew up on a farm near Ada. He, too, always had a veggie garden along the back fence of our backyard. He and Granddad had very different gardening styles. Granddad's garden was every bit as neat and tidy as Nana's flower beds. Daddy let everything pretty much do what it liked. He'd plant cantaloupes at the west end of the garden, and we'd be picking them from the east end. I don't recall ever seeing cages for anything, though I do think he'd add stakes to tomatoes if they offered to fall over. If they wanted to spread and sprawl all over the garden, he'd let them. Until a couple of years ago, when I bought my first house, I never had the opportunity to garden much so I didn't have any questions for them. Now that I do, they're not where I can phone to ask. But I did learn that you can grow your own food, and that it tastes better than what you buy in the supermarket, and that you can fill your house and yard with beautiful forms, colors, and fragrances. If I didn't manage to learn much about the specifics of accomplishing all that, I did at least learn it was possible and that I wanted that ability. My Nana left on All Saints' Day in 1988. By the time the fourth anniversary of her departure came, they were all gone - Nana, Granddad, Mom, and Daddy. I have learned that I will never not miss them, but time does make the ache hurt less. Melissia, Jay, and tulsacityfarmer, you have my deepest sympathy. Connie, your husband's response is easily one of the, if THE, wisest thing I've ever heard. I don't remember who found this poem, but my Granddad had it read at the graveside for Nana's funeral. After her death he and my parents all decided to plan for their time and let us all know what they wanted. Every one of them wanted this poem read at the service, which we did. It took me a while to find it on the web; I was beginning to think I'd have to hunt up my copy at home, but I finally managed to find it. I didn't remember the title, perhaps the copy I had didn't have it on there, but according to the site where I found it, its title is, "I Am Always With You." When I am gone, release me, let me go. I have so many things to see and do, You mustn't tie yourself to me with too many tears, But be thankful we had so many good years. I gave you my love, and you can only guess How much you've given me in happiness. I thank you for the love that you have shown, But now it is time I traveled on alone. So grieve for me a while, if grieve you must Then let your grief be comforted by trust That it is only for a while that we must part, So treasure the memories within your heart. I won't be far away for life goes on. And if you need me, call and I will come. Though you can't see or touch me, I will be near And if you listen with your heart, you'll hear All my love around you soft and clear And then, when you come this way alone, I'll greet you with a smile and a "Welcome Home". Debra

I know how you feel wx,I have had a few of those episodes this winter,last night I heard something that sounded like a car blowing down the street!so I decided to go outsde and take a look around,some tape I had used to close a cut I made in the big g/house was ripped open,I had to stuff a couch cushion over it to cover it up!not quite as cold here I don't think but man,the wind had to be gusting to at least 40-50mph,this has happened in one form or another a dozen times this winter and like you I heard my little babies crying out!LOL. I look forward to tomorrow as I will remove the front portion of the biggest g/house and go with a rain sheild/sun cover for a few more weeks until the weather warms up,this weekend when we hit 73F it was 98F in the g/house!its just to hard to keep them cool this time of year and its better for the cactus to be dry and 20-40F then risk having the temps go into the 90s,its just to much stress on them,glad you saved your palms wxman!