crikey ... where are you .. i cant remember everyones location off hand ... and what is your soil.. that might make a difference ... the koreansis is an absolutely gorgeous.. fast growing.. green freakin tree ... if you have acreage.. get one ... if you are suburban.. and uneder a half acre.. skip it ... i usually spend an hour in spring.. and again in fall.. trying to find a single branch with OD markings .. of crimminey ... and the jack corbett is not different in any manner ... but again .. as a green pine.. it will knock your socks off.. hmmmm.. maybe it depends where you are??? do consider one of the two ... but dont waste space on both unless you have 5+ acres ... zone is basically low winter temp ... but dave can speak to high summer night temps and humidity as a problem for some types of conifers.. i do NOT think any of those are on your list... if you go to your memebers page.. you can propable add a city and state to your z6 info ... as i added MI ... after the adrian part of my name.. so you all now know.. i am in adrian MI ... yeah.. adrian is not my last name ... monkeyboy.. lol ... finally.. i have st mary pungens.. i didnt know there was a st joe .. i will have to look that up ... the rest.. nice choices ... but dont get me going on chief jo ... but i think CK has addressed that thru understock ... ken

James thank you very much for your input! I put together my list based on others' photos without knowing how they will do in my climate so your suggestions are very helpful. How far is your patch from me? Do we have similar weather patterns? If so I should really go by your Have list assuming that you still love them enough to keep them right? I was told that orange won't do well where I am. So I had to cross them all off my list. I think red and purple are tough too. Yes I would love to take KW and Intense Rainbow. I don't know how far you are but I am pretty close to Bill, so I can also meet up with you guys. Thanks again!

Paula, Thank you for the offer but I don't collect gobs and gobs of seeds. I just collect a few seed heads of things I think others might like to grow and a few for myself for the next year if they are annuals. I shouldn't say this here on the garden web but I toss most seeds in the trash as I am cleaning up my gardens ( take a deep breathe, stop gasping...lol). I think this year I will collect more than usual because I feel like a cheap skate when I see some of the other seed packets in swaps...lol I have added the petunias to your gift package and again, thank you for the offer. I will pass this time though. Lisa

Hi guys...Christmas in Jan... Patty playing Santa..but not enough Elfs to help her...I LOVE CHRISTMAS A shame it only come's once a year. My hands crack and bleed too. I have to wash them all day long at my work. I use Neutrogena Hand Cream and Foot Cream...Have tryed a lot of other lotions. This is the only one that works for me...You guys need to try it. And Patty I have baggies stashed everywhere. We have a greenhouses at work. They ask me for seeds. Hope everyone has a great weekend. I am trying to finish some more Winter sowing. Debbie