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Help with Bald Cypress / River Birch location, please.
Comments (9)Thanks so much for all the help. I guess the area isn't really flooded most of the time. Neither tree will be located in the swale directly (that's a violation of the swale law or some such thing). There may be a couple days in which it stays particularly soggy and mushy with some visible surface water, but mored puddled than pond like. Most of the time it's just very damp. There can be some afternoons between July and September in which it almost qualifies as dry on the surface when it's really hot here. However, all yards drain to through mine, and with two water happy neighbors, there is always some moisture. I also have new neighbors since November, and I've no idea what their water habits will be. I did just lose a red maple sapling (Arbor Day twig - free with order) from that area. It broke in half this winter, and it's dead, dead, dead. I had considered putting the birch some place else, and recently decided to put it where the Maple was now that I realize just how moist that area stays, and that the other location does not get nearly the same water and drains much better. I expect I will go ahead with the Birch in site B, closer to the house and deck because I love the graceful look and interesting bark. The dappled shade it provides will be perfect, and the quick growth is appreciated. I'd rather put the slower growing, and potentially larger(? maybe denser is more accurate) cypress towards the rear of our property, more as a background tree. Thanks again. I really appreciate the feedback so quickly. I'm diligent in my research, but still lack confidence. Especially since the red maple worked out so poorly....See MoreBald Cypress Problems
Comments (26)Lou and scotjute: Thanks--I have been a close observer of baldcypress for a long time, and it is one of my favorite trees, but I still have some things to learn. I have seen this kind of thing on my trees before, but not nearly as bad as this. My watering stopped then foliage loss, and I feel confident, expecially after what you have said, that the worst one will be OK. One other looked moderately bad, and a third did not show that much loss. One of my observations when I lived in D.C. was a trio of baldcypress planted in front of the Natural History Museum. These were nice, but not especially large, older trees. At one point, someone decided that the Mall area should have rows of elms exclusively. They removed some trees and replaced them with elms. At about that time they put down around these baldcypress trees some kind of fine sand/clay mixture as a kind of "pavement." I guess water could, to some extent, penetrate this, but it seemed to me to be an attempt to kill these trees so the could keep the geometry of the rows of elms more pure. I think they were afraid that if they just cut down the trees as they had some others, they would get too many complaints. Anyway, the trees suffered for a time, and one had about 15 feet of its top die back. But...hah!..they all survived. I was impressed with their toughness. --Spruce...See MoreAre Walnut trees toxic to Dawn Redwood or Bald Cypress?
Comments (7)I have a grafted Shawnee Brave Bald Cypress approx 50' downhill from a few Black Walnuts & 25' from the dripline. It's in moist clay - the water is run-off from up by the Walnut trees. It's growing so slow, less than 8" per year, & the needle/leaves are very short compared to other specimens I've seen. It looks chlorotic, but pH is neutral - I'm considering composting it. It's just not right... I had a 2nd Shawnee Brave w/ same growth issues, 12' closer to the BW. One winter this BC suddenly died back to the graft after 2 or 3 yrs growing. It resprouted below the graft as common BC, beautiful green fast growing stems - 36" in 1 season - but alot of those stems died over the next winter, then it shot up new stems... Eventually I got rid of it - I didn't need a Bald Cypress 'shrub'. I assumed the appearance & issues were caused by poor roots due to clay, but when I dug up the 1st tree I was surprised how deep & strong the roots grew in just a few years. I still think the problem is the planting location or Shawnee Brave weaknesses, but maybe juglone can stunt Bald Cypress growth....See MoreBald cypress issue
Comments (13)I have some similar damage/injury to my bald cypress, like what is shown in your pics 1 and 7. The damage on my trees is about 8 ft from the ground on 18 ft(ish) trees, all on the ESE side. I noticed the injury this summer when I saw sap oozing from strange narrow "lifted bark" wounds in the trees. The bark has since flaked off the areas in question, and now they appear to mostly be healed/healing. Much less severe than some of what you are seeing, so I wasn't going to worry about it unless it got worse. I assumed the issue with my trees was caused by the severe ice storm, that damaged many trees locally in coastal NC. I am always amazed at how flexible my bald cypress are during hurricanes and tropical storms, and the ice storm was no different. They were completely coated with ice, and the upper 1/2 of each tree was almost bending to the ground from the weight. A strong NW wind blew to really get things mashed up with the weight of the ice....See Morescotjute Z8
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