And I found something caled 'Rothenburg' on one of the Coenosium pages. bboy: this 'Reflexa' name is confusing. Some sites describe it as you say, and that would be something that can't grow upright on its own. But Dave (dcsteg) is growing a couple (see his post, with pictures, under the topic "my $49 blue spruce weeper ID") and I found a place on-line--I can't get back to it now--that describes the tree Dave is growing: upright grower with branches curving upwards with weeping branchlets. I find all the contradictory descriptions of these cultivars very frustrating and confusing. Treelover: I will try Iseli--the local nursery here--Webbers--has been buying from them recently, so I will see what they can do for me. Redwing; I will try Gee farms--thanks for the reference. A nursery in WV has a couple of P. abies 'Pendula' trees for sale. They have been sitting there for two or three years now. The burlap has rotted away and they are rooted in the ground. They look really nice and are growing upright on their own. It is too late now--growth is well underway and they would have to be dug, but if they are still there and still growing upright, I will buy them early next spring. But what could they be? I understand many things are commonly sold as 'Pendula' including 'Inversa'. I guess I will never know what something like this actually is, specifically. But I have lots of room and want to grow as many of these things as I can find, maybe in multiples. --Spruce

Thanks for adding to the gallery guys. Seems a bit strange for me to keep posting to myself! :) Thanks for the compliments too, hearing it from conifer legends always makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. More more and more! This is madness!... Picea abies 'Suncrest'. New to me, a nice tight, bluish color miniature, bought at Coenosium Gardens. 'Gold Dust'. An unusually 'leggy' small dwarf with highly unusual colors as the new foliage eventually becomes more golden and mixes well with the older blue/green. 'Perry's Gold'. Pretty bright! New growth eventually reverts to a more dark green. This specimen is in almost full shade. Awesome! 'Vermont Gold' A sport from 'Repens' I believe, grows laterally into a wide shrub, new growth is delicately gold and burns in full sun here. 'Clanbrassiliana Stricta'. A bit more of a cone shaped dwarf. 'Nidiformis'. Common, available at many box stores and in my opinion, still a pretty nice plant. 'Hasin'. Doing some wierd things, I'd better take a look and prune back that barberry! Usually a super-tight miniature similar to 'Dumpy'. 'Malena'. A great looking small dwarf with unusual needle shape, mine received too much sun last year, suffered some damage and this Winter found a new home. 'Aarburg'. A twisting, weeping, chaotic 'Dr. Suess' tree. Saw it for the first time at Coenosium Gardens and had to have one. Eventually gets pretty wide(not too tall), but I think it will be happy enough here in 5-6 hours of sun. Picea abies seems to handle part shade very well. Many of mine are in filtered sun with 3-4 hours of direct sun. 'Gold Drift'. Only one of the best, a strongly weeping, fast growing tree essential to any conifer collection. More when I have time, please feel free to add some of yours. -Will

Dax, I can't wait to see your 'Sherrie', can you show us a picture of this plant? When it comes to 'Gem' and 'Little Gem' which are in your opinion far apart is the quiestion here if Iseli could chosen another name to AVOID nameproblems. Because they have such a big name worldwide and are familiar with conifernames, they should have chosen another name... Recently information directly received from Iseli by Henk is: This selection is found in 1992 as a witches'broom on a 'Nidiformis' and was first named 'Nidiformis WB #2'. They propagated quite a few plants a named it a couple of years ago 'Iseli Gem'. Last year their production planning group lost interest and felt it was not really worth attaching the name Iseli so the name was changed again, this time shortened to 'Gem'. They still have plants to sell but discontinued future propagation... I'm glad you can finaly breath again but I have to say honestly if you want to run the ACS database that you have to face these facts about conifer names. Don't worry to much about these, you have enough friends here which will help you to bring all to a good end! For instance I give you info again about this plant which you can use. Dave, the 'Goblin' at my Pinetum is indeed a lighter green but this is just the first flush growth which is still a fresh green. When the second flush will start the needles of the first flush are also as dark green as the 'Gem'.

Clement, I LOVE the 'Rothenhaus'. I sure hope mine turns out like that some day! My young specimen: 'Rothenhaus'. Another weeper, cultivar name unknown. 'Aurea'. A great gold color, most of the year, with no burn in full sun. FAST growing, this will have to be limbed up some day soon. -Will 'Pendula'. I've let this one ramble down the rocks for the last three years. It's happy, coning and easy to grow. 'Pendula'. Another specimen. Growing like crazy. 'Acracona'. A classic, though mine is just establishing, and thus only coned slightly crazy this year instead of totally crazy like this cultivar usually does.