Any Atreano Gold fig info?
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The real 'atreano'?
Comments (2)shane11 From all that I have read on two fig forums, it is my understanding, that there are some bogus, look alike, "Atreano" varieties that originated on the West Coast. They have been known to be inferior in production and in flavor quality. The "real" variety originated with Hanc Mathies, and wood was propagated by the now defunct and lamented Belleclare Nursery, on Long Island. This is the provenance for this variety. The original "Atreano", sometimes called "Atreano-Gold" is an East-Coast fig variety that found its way into selected collections. The rest is history. A very respected fig grower told me that it was bred in Italy, for superior fig production, vigor, and for excellent flavor. They succeeded. In my opinion, "Atreano" will be a classic "white" fig in the coming years. When grown well, and properly ripened, the golden-yellow figs are too good to be forgotten. Starting in 2007, I have grown this variety in large 18-25 gallon containers, and the trees have lived through some tough, NYC winters without die-back, or damages from freezing weather. The trees are unprotected, and the containers are resting on a cement driveway. The trees are exposed to the elements, and are watered by rain and snow. I used to store them in an unheated, storage shed, but the last 3 years, they stayed outside. Understand that NYC is now Zone-7b, but it is really much warmer, most winters. We rarely get into the low teens, and the temps are in the 20s and 30s at night, a little warmer in the day. So, most of the time, the climate is really like Zone-8/9a, with occasional Z-7b temps. There was a time when Bronx fig trees were routinely covered, but now, most just grow without any special treatment, or protection. However.... because of the short, cool season, many Bronx figs do not ripen before the cold nights set in. These are in-ground trees, and most owners never pinch back growth to set earlier main-crop figs. Very little scientific fig growing in Da Bronx. I have seen only one other grower who has his figs in half, wine barrels. Original strain "Atreano" is worth seeking out, and growing with the proper horticultural techniques, i.e. granular limestone top dressing, pinching back, withholding water at roots as figs ripen, etc. will make you very happy. Frank...See Moregrowing LSU Gold fig-'fantastic'
Comments (33)The following quote comes from the LSU Ag. Department's Fig publication: "The LSU Gold variety was released by the LSU AgCenter in 2001. LSU Gold is a large yellow fig (35-50 grams)blushed with red and containing light red to pink pulp. The fruit has excellent flavor and good cold resistance. One of the limting characteristics of LSU Gold is the open eye when mature. This can cause spoilage of fruit during ripening in high moisture periods. This variety is recommended for Louisiana." I can attest to the outstanding flavor of this variety. When I tasted my first LSU Gold several years ago, I could not believe a fig could taste so good. Prior to that I had only tasted Brown Turkey and Celeste (probably not a true Celeste). This variety ignited a passion in me for figs and I have collected many varieties since then. I have a few cuttings available for trade if anyone is interested (mine can be traced directly to the LSU breeding program). I also have a few cuttings of LSU Purple, LSU Improved Celeste, and LSU Golden Celeste. I am interested in varieties that I do not have. I am looking for Falls Gold, Hollier, White Texas Everbearing, and other varieties with good taste that should grow well in South Louisiana. Dan...See More'Golden Atreano' ... good crop of figs
Comments (9)paully22: I have posted -(under the name: "effdeevee")- lots of info about this variety a few years back, starting in 2008, ... which is when I purchased my original trees from a nursery out on Long Island, called, Zaino's Garden Center/Nursery, Westbury, NY. A search for "ATREANO" on this forum might fill in some background information. When I purchased the trees, the name tag was marked "GOLDEN ATREANO". Where these trees originated I cannot say. I just bought another 5-6 FT. tree this past spring, same nursery, and the tag was marked "ATREANO GOLD" .... I doubt it's a new variety, but just a typo-twist, or something, because my original trees from 2008 and this recently purchased tree, are exactly the same. I have no idea where Zaino's gets their fig trees, but they are beautifully grown plants, and worth the asking price, which is very reasonable considering that they are at bearing age. No growing, no waiting, no hoping, .... just instant figs! Now, to your original question: .... Sorry, but I cannot answer either way. I have read that there was an original variety that was grown at the now defunct, and, lamented, Belleclare's, and that RR was selling some minor variation- on-the-theme. I have also read that all "ATREANOS" are/were propagated from the original Hank Matthies tree, brought over from Naples, Italy. This was the tree that "Bellclare" propagated and sold. Other members know more about this "ATREANO"-provenance than I. At the same time back in 2008, I also purchased some smaller "ATREANO" trees from "Burnt Ridge Nursery" located in Oregon, USA. Although the BR trees were much younger and smaller than the Zaino's trees, they ultimately turned out to be the same. Minor leaf-shape variations, but still the same. Unfortunately, the BR trees met their demise when I forgot to water them. But, I grew them a few years, and they also were great producers of quality, golden-yellow, figs. Yes, golden-yellow, not slightly green, but large, golden-yellow, sweet, jammy-textured, figs. How large were the figs? Two figs, side-by-side, fit on my open hand. The Zaino trees and the BR trees gave me the same type/quality fruit. The figs are golden-yellow when properly ripened. Maybe, that's where the "golden" qualifier comes from, in the name: "GOLDEN ATREANO"/"ATREANO GOLD" You say that you have OR, and, the RR "ATREANO" variant. Do you see a difference between the two? I wish someone would do a side be side comparison, with pictures, maybe taken at various times throughout the growing season, especially photos of properly ripened fruit so we can all see what's going on. I'd like to know if there are differences also. I'm pretty sure that I read in past-postings, that herman2, et al. think all "ATREANOS" come from the same mold. A few members HAVE posted photos of the "ATREANO" leaves and figs, but, who knows? Leaf-shape can vary, even on the same tree, and/or from season to season. I'm wondering if this is the origin of "is it the real thing, or is it the mock" controversy? I guess the question is still open. Any "fig detectives" out there? Hope this rambling post has shed some light on the subject. I have written about my experiences. Other FF members might have some different information to share with us. Please, anybody, .... correct the record. HELP!!!! Best regards, Frank/BronxFigs/effdeevee...See MoreFuse-grafting of fig tree trunks
Comments (13)I'd like to clarify some of the confusion regarding the "fuse-grafting techniques, and training methods that I have used on some trees. I will employ this same method on the fig trees that I have just purchased. I realize that this technique is not for everyone. I just wanted to share this information with you guys. Use it as you wish. "Fuse-grafting" techniques DO NOT involve cutting into the healthy bark so that the cambium layers can be aligned. No wounds are created by this technique so no insects or diseases will enter or infect the trunks being joined. No special follow-up treatments are needed. It is not labor-intensive. Once the stems are joined together, just follow your regular fig growing routines. The mainstems are simply screwed together to create a fatter, and stronger "trunk". The "composite-trunk" will not be weak, nor will they pull apart. The screwheads will quickly be covered over with new bark, and in time, you will not be able to tell that the heavy, fat trunk was at one time, made up of individual stems. This "grafting" will take a few years, and the spaces between the individual trunks will fill in and smooth over with new bark. Your trees will look like a bundle of tied-up cornstalks for a while so be patient. In addition, this method consolidates plant material which would normally be grown in separate containers. I do not have the space to grow individual trees, so I needed to find a way to grow my fig trees in one container. Fuse-grafting to the rescue. Now I'll have three times the plant material growing in one place ... and maybe three times the figs too. I also like seeing trees with short, fat, trunks with lots of taper supporting a nice rack of ramified branchlets. More branches, more nodes, more nodes, more figs. This preference is a hold-over from my bonsai days. Large diameter trunks convey age and endurance. Exposed rootage does too. I like thinking outside the box. I know that this training method might be too unconventional for some, but I'm going to try it out to see how well it works...or, fails. Wintering-over will still be a problem for me. I have an unheated shed where I stored some fig trees over the winter '06. The trees did OK. I'm hoping for the same results with my new trees. I've also read that fig trees can be brought into a heated room to break dormancy about a month before they are ready to be grown outside. For my zone, this would probably be around mid, to late April. I'll try bringing my trees in on Tax Day and I'll put them outside around Mother's Day. I read that it takes about two weeks for dormancy to break and for buds to swell, and, at least another two weeks before the new leaves start suffer from low light. Any thoughts...pro or con?...See Moreamjg
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13 years agoDennis AKA Snaglpus
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13 years agoherman2_gw
13 years agoHere is mine:It has leaVES AND FRUITS iDENTICAL TO dR. lEON TREE.
I leave mine longer on tree so that is why they look yellower,and not because the tree is different.
Dennis AKA Snaglpus
13 years agonoss
13 years agoDennis AKA Snaglpus
13 years agoHello Leon and others! I have a confession. My Atreano Golden came from a friend of mine and I think his last name is Mecurio. He use to live about an hour and a half east of me just southh of Raleigh. I found my notes and now understand what happened. The fig he sold me was called Golden Atreano. I found the original label when I moved all my trees inside. What happened to me was squirrels! I make metal tags on all my tree and I found the metal tag bent down tucked in the corner of the container. After investigating other trees, I found 5 others with the same problem.....SQUIRRELS! Anyway, the tree is really called Atreano Gold. The leaf patterns are different from Atreano but grows very fast like Atreano. I remember now, Mr Mercurio said he purchase a lot of rare cuttings up north and also got cuttings from friends back home in Italy and Canada. He had a lot trees for sale back in 2008 and I bought around 8 or 10 from him. One day he emailed me saying he was moving back home and needed to sell his tree collection. I was suppose to go visit and purchase all his trees but could not make the trip. The eye on these figs are closed. I plan on planting this tree in my yard come spring. In my pictures below I called the fig Green Turkey because I did could not find the label. I thought I bought the tree from Lowes. The reason why is in 2008 I started my collection and bought 2 Brown Turkey figs and repotted 4 trees in the exact same container color and all. All 4 trees had their tags removed and I assume I got them from Lowes but that day I only bought 2 from Lowes. I found the 2 BT from Lowes. They were in a different location from my other trees and I thought my Atreano Golden was the BT. Well, I"m glad I located my notes and labels. I relabeled all my trees and double labels some. Here are a few more pictures:
cheers, Dennis
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