An echeveria as well? Or a sempervivum? Note the seedling growing out on the side?

first one looks like a Graptoveria (hybrid)... but not sure which... second is likely an Echeveria (certainly not a Sempervivum) but could be a Sedum or closely related species

I was thinking a Graptoveria cv debbie. I am not an expert here. There are so many of these hybrids.

I also think the 1st is xGraptoveria 'Debbi' (no 'e').

I believe the 2nd is Orostachys boehmeri.

Thank you so much. I do believe they look quite spot on. I had initially thought both of them were echeverias. . .

Can I ask for more help with these few more that I transplanted today?

I think this one is an echeveria pulidonis, but next to its neighbour, it also looks like a pulidonis. Yet between the both of them, the leaf structure looks different from each other.

J

Here's her neighbour, also red-rimmed, but this has bloomed yellow flowers, but more compact growth habit. I have yet to see the other one bloom any flowers.

Also an echeveria pulidonis?

Here's another one which I can't seem to pin down. I had initially thought an echeveria, but later. . . . I don't know. Maybe an aeonium?

The last photo looks a little too pointed to be Echeveria perle van nurnberg. It could be a cultural deviation or a hybrid. I am not very familiar with aeoniums. It also looks a little like Dudleya pulverulenta , or D. palos, D. cymosa, but the wrong color.I am just making suggestions by googling so do not pick a name from mine without a great deal more reseach. I do not grow a lot of Dudleyas. They don't much like Texas.

This post was edited by wantonamara on Sun, Dec 30, 12 at 13:58

Yes, the first 2 from second set look like Echeveria pulidonis (the first one more so than the 2nd, which may be hybrid of it).

The other is not an Aeonium. Looks like Echeveria to me (but Dudleya is a possibility). E. diffractens comes to mind, but I don't think that's a match. On 2nd thought, E. diffractens is a good possibility. You could wait for it to flower & then post again for an ID.

This post was edited by rosemariero6 on Sun, Dec 30, 12 at 19:15

Yes. Agree on both counts. I think they're both (if not somewhat related) to the E. pulidonis. I just needed to be sure, as the growth patterns indicated at first that they're different.

Also agree on the E. diffractens. I googled more and I think that's pretty close.

Thank you much. I am able to add three more toothpick markers to my planters to ID them. I'm posting more herewith if you can help me.

E. painter's brush or E. dondo?

E. Glauca? Scoop-shaped leaves, light green, tight growth pattern. . . .

Hi John,

I think the 1st pic in this last trio of pix is a Sempervivum (Semp. for short,but don't know which), not an Ech.

John: I was gonna go for E. 'Lola' on the one you suggested E. glauca; but you may be right, given the spoonish characteristic of the leaves. 'Lola' tends to have flatter, fatter leaves (albeit only slightly). I'm still not 100% sold on E. glauca, 'though my eye hasn't quite decided yet why.



*CG*

@CG, is this an E. lola? I have this pegged as unidentified as well. It looks closer to the lola, flatter leaves on all.

J

I agree the first of this last group looks like a Sempervivum species. It could also be a Jovibarba. I do not know how to tell the difference. These two genus have been lumped together before. Not sure if they're separated now.

A tip (for everyone) when requesting IDs on your plants...it helps to either give the size of your plant/pot or to put something in the pic for scale (coin, Chapstick, pen, key, soda can, ruler/measuring stick, tennis ball, etc.). Helps to narrow down suspects! =)

On the 2nd in this last bunch, my first thought was xGraptoveria 'Silver Star', but the tips on the leaves would've been much longer. How large is this rosette? If you mean Echeveria derenbergii for "painter's brush", I believe the common name is Painted Lady...but, no, I don't think that it is that one. I don't believe it is E. 'Dondo' either. The LAST plant (4th) could be either of these 2 (derenbergii -maybe 'Dondo', but I think less so on the latter), and definitely not 'Lola'. It might even be a very young Echeveria 'Tippy'. If you ever get blooms on this, please repost.

Here's a pic of E. 'Lola' for you to compare (click for larger view):
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The 3rd is a toughy- Echeveria glauca has been reclassified to E. secunda, with varieties or subspecies, I believe. It does not look like either of these to me. Another one that blooms might help to get an ID on it. How large is this rosette? If I think of some other possibility, I'll be back! :)

With exception to the suspect sempervivum marmoreum (little purple rosette), the rest are approximately 2.5" - 3" in diameter.

Hope that provides better insight?

J

John: Rosemarie has offered a good pic of E. 'Lola'; here's a pic of a Lola I used to have, before it succumbed to the combination of ungodly summer heat in the desert and my sad attempts to keep it hydrated (which resulted in essentially drowning/cooking it):

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Looking at your very first photo, and despite the suggestion of Graptoveria 'Debbi', I want to put out the possibility that it might be a G. 'Opalina'. Here's a pic of my Opalina (in better days - it's still with me, but it's a shadow of its former glory):

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Rosemarie, you being the resident usually-right-on-the-money expert, I'm curious for your input on my suggestion.

*CG*

Rosemarie: Nevermind on the Opalina. I see the stark difference now. :)

John: On the one you asked me about, if it was a Lola, no, it's not. The leaves are too plump and too narrow. Also, the one you were asking about being E. 'Painter's Brush' or E. 'Dondo', I honestly would've leaned toward it being a Dondo; but Rosemarie is usually pretty spot-on, so if she says it's not, then I'm inclined to trust her.

*CG*

Thanks folks. It looks as though that last batch will require a little bit more monitoring, just to be sure.

I'm posting herewith the last batch of rosette-echeveria-sempervivum-like plants that I have in the unidentified bucket.

After this, I'm moving onto the Haworthia family, there's a sizeable number of 'not sure' and 'gosh I don't know' plants I have in my collection too.

All the pix you see herewith are approx 2.5" - 3" in diameter.

Appreciate comments!

J

Largest leaf on this plant is about 3mm wide and 5mm long. Pretty tiny as far as the rest of my plants go. Compare the size of the perlite gravel I use in other plants against this one.

This one's naturally sports a darker green hue on the mature leaves. It's got off-white fur-like husk that appears in gaps where the younger leaves bloom.

Jessica, nice plants! I'm thinking the 2nd isn't an 'Opalina', as it isn't white/pink (having lighter bloom on it) as one would. Will have to get back to you with others thoughts. Has it bloomed yet? Would like to see those for best ID.

John, in last set, 1st one is xCremnosedum 'Little Gem'.
2nd seems most like a Sedum, but can't say which species. Could be something else altogether.
3rd is Anacampseros, I'd say A. rufescens most likely.

Bring on the Haworthia! Those are tougher to ID, unless it's common in the trade. (Best to start a new thread for a different genera/batch.)

2nd one: I am comparing growth patterns of my existing sedums, I have the multiceps, burrito, pachyphyllum and rubrotinctum. They all tend to spiral upwards. The second one doesn't demonstrate that.

Isn't it something more similar to the cremnosedum?

Agree with the Haworthias, I'm having the most trouble with them. I'll start a new thread tomorrow! Whee!

J

A possibility for you on that 2nd one in the last bunch: Aeonium sedifolium (which was my first thought, but I nixed it, as your plant's leaves are not so plump as I would think it to have...but it does have the tannic stripes/coloring). Still, I would not say this is IT. :P Would like to see its blooms, if/when it does. =)

Adding a link to a pic of one, but not sure GW allows this site when linking (we shall see). Okay, it would not, because of spam or other. This site also has other pix of this plant that look more like how I believe it should look. Also, I don't find this site has correct labeling of their plants, so don't fully trust them. So, google image this name. Maybe I'll email you the name of site!

This post was edited by rosemariero6 on Sat, Jan 5, 13 at 15:55

Rosemarie

Got it. The leaves do look rather plump. Maybe I'm underfeeding my plant, Haha!

I'll keep an eye out for more of its like. Thank you much!

Will work on the new post for Haworthias tonight (+0800 GMT).

See you there!

J

J, Someone on another forum (cacti guide) has posted a plant just like yours I'm thinking is A. sedifolium. Perhaps there is a hybrid out there we're not aware of, or it's just variability within the species.