They sell Dave Wilson trees so its the exact same trees that Bay Laurel, Sanhedrin, and many other places are selling. The only difference is how much pruning they do to fit trees in the shipping box. I don't recall ever getting a whip from Dave Wilson. Scott

Use the stuff with no fear - organics will not burn or harm your plant. I have had my best luck with using an all-organic program that is manure based (either horse, cow, or poultry). There is no need to fear bad microbes with properly composted &/or pasturized manure - composting gets rid of the bad & encourages the good (which is not harmful to us, only beneficial to the plant); pasturizing may kill microbes, but it's only killing bad. It's the process of composting that encourages already existing good microbes in the soil, that's why it's good to put certain types of uncomposted organic matter in soils (ie: letting grass cippings drop behind every now & then, or spreading manure). As for the guy who has no need for molasses, poultry manure & humates, this is what I've learned through scientific research of the materials: The molasses is a high quality natural sugar which is loaded with all kind of nutrients that provide food for the GOOD microbes, to encourage their propogation, & therefore health of the soil - the poulty manure is a manure product that is very high in nitrogen per pound (more so than many other manures), as well as the other nutrients needed, but yet won't burn the plant on application, like chemical fertilizers (it also slow releases, so it doesn't wash into our waterways causing fish death & drinking water contamination) - the humates stimulate growth & plant development by storing nutrients for slow release - and just for the record, the sea kelp is a great source of organic nutrients, & green sand is a natural source of iron & other minerals that won't burn a plant, either. I've used this product on my St. Aug & Bermuda grass lawns & pastures, & have had much luck with using it in conjuction with spreading dried horse manure with one of my applications yearly, as well. I've have also had FABULOUS luck using this product in my garden with composted horse manure, & a sprinkiling of dissolved diluted molasses (cheap livestock feeding type) 1x per growing season. I will most certainly look for & use it again - so I have nothing but good to say about this product or Medina products, in general. Also, the odor dissapates in 2 days if watered so that it breaks down from it's pellet form - after the watering the smell rapidly leaves after less than 24 hours. If you don't water, it will take a couple days more to dissapate . My only warning when using the product is to be sure to water it until it breaks down from it's pellet form (just needs to be saturated for this to happen) if you're using it in a pet yard - if you don't, your dog may eat it. It WON'T harm the dog (as it is pasturized against the bad stuff), but I just find this a pretty disgusting canine practice! (Also, for the equine uneducated, dogs LOVE dried road apples left behind from horses - yuk!)

"Thanks BR. I see it's also got chelated iron in it, looks like a good starter product, when do you start backing off on the phosphate, or do you?" I don't. They stay wicked in that solution until they get moved outside to harden off. I do not use that product at all once the plants are outside and in the ground. Once outside I don't as a rule fertilize veggies once they are outside...sometimes a shot of 8-8-8 granular but my ground is very rich due to the rabbit manure and seldom have a need. But while say peppers are on the green light they will sometimes initiate flower buds while inside.I pick them off but seems a good sign.

thanks Khalid I'm thinking about sowing both...I will order my seeds from this company http://www.herbgarden.co.za/mountainherb/herbinfo.php?id=83 Common Name: CUMIN - BLACK Scientific Name: Nigella sativa Seeds: To order please contact us Get the latest pricelists hereDescription: Annual White flowers Mentioned in Bible Culinary Uses: Spicy flavour. Ingredient in curry and spicy mixtures Bread, cake, sauces, curries, chutneys fish dishes Medicinal Uses. It is said that: Respiratory conditions, allergies, fevers, flu, asthma, emphysema Hypertension, insomnia, arthritic and rheumatic pain Clear acne, boils, excessive perspiration Inhibits certain forms of cancer Stomach upsets, nausea, vomiting, colic, spasms, intestinal worms Diuretic and promotes lactation Treat inflammatory and auto-immune conditions http://www.herbgarden.co.za/mountainherb/herbinfo.php?id=461&seeds=1 Plant InformationCommon Name: CUMIN, JEERA Scientific Name: Cuminum cyminum Seeds: To order please contact us Get the latest pricelists hereDescription: Annual Cumin is the dried seed of the herb Cuminum cyminum, a member of the parsley family. It was originally cultivated in Iran and the Mediterranean region and has been in use since ancient times. It is mentioned in the Bible in both the Old Testament (Isaiah 28:27) and the New Testament (Matthew 23:23). Today it is cultivated all over the world. Cumin is a half hardy, slender annual with finely divided, ovate leaves, reaching 10cm long. Tiny, white to pale pink flowers are produced in umbels, followed by gray-green ovoid-oblong fruits, containing pale brown seeds. Cumin is grown from seed sown in spring and prefers full sun, well-drained fertile soil and a long hot summer of three to four months (115 days). Daytime temperatures must be around 30 °C - seeds may not ripen in cold climates. Seeds must be sown directly in a garden bed and keep clean from weeds - germination will take place in 1 to 3 weeks.Culinary Uses: Cumin can be used ground or as whole seeds and helps to add a hot and aromatic flavor to food. The seeds are a perfect companion for salad dressings, cheese, pickles, pastries, masala, stews, soups and spiced gravies such as chili. Cumin is an ingredient of curry powder and has a distinctive taste associated with ethnic foods of the Mediterranean Basin. An essential oil from the seed is used as a food flavoring.Parts Used: The seeds are collected by hand when ripe, threshed, dried and stored whole in airtight jars.Medicinal Uses. It is said that: Cumin is an astringent herb that benefits the digestive system - it is used in treating inflammation, indigestion, flatulence and as an appetite suppressant. Cumin purifies blood, promotes healthy reproductive organs in both male and female, increases milk flow in nursing mothers and acts an aphrodisiac. A fine paste of cumin seed powder mixed with water is applied on boils, swellings and itchiness of the skin. To prepare a mouth freshener, eliminate foul smell of the mouth and heal mouth ulcers - boil Cumin powder in water, allow cooling down, adding a pinch of cardamom powder, filter and gargle. In ancient times it has been used as a pain killer and to treat rotten teeth. Massage roasted Cumin powder mixed with sea salt on the gums to treat inflammations, prevent bleeding and to strengthen them. To treat indigestion and flatulence - boil 5ml of Cumin seed powder in 250ml of water, allow it to cool down and drink twice daily. Using Cumin powder with honey will do the same. To treat irritable bowel syndrome - drink pomegranate juice mixed with roasted Cumin powder until the condition subsides. In India ground Cumin powder is mixed into a paste with onion juice - to be applied to scorpion stings Cumin has a very disagreeable flavor and is nowadays seldom used in Western herbal medicine - having been superseded by caraway which has similar properties and a more pleasant flavor. Today Cumin's medicinal use is confined to veterinary practice where it is used as a carminative.For Animals. It is said that: Cumin is often used as part of birdseed mixtures. Mixed Cumin seeds and sea-salt is an universal remedy for diseases like scabby backs and breasts disease in pigeons. Take 113g each of sea salt, common Salt, Dill-seeds, Cumin-seeds, 453g Fennel-seeds and 29ml Assafoetida. Mix it with a little wheat flour and some fine-worked clay. Mix well and bake in the oven. Allow to cool down and put it on the table in the dove-cote for the pigeons