sex.. pollen.. ovary.. etc ... [hows that for a start... lol] many plants do not come true from seed... and are in fact sterile .. and i suspect that is what you are finding ... food crops are selectively bred for a huge crop .. for processing and sale ... there is no inherent need for them to consider germination of the following generations ... as its a one and done system .. and in fact ... the growers dont want them to seed... rather relying on planting fresh seed with the genes they want the following season ... so it does not surprise me.. that bird food seed would fail on some level ... soooo ... if you are going large.. and want a crop.. you select a cultivar that will provide such.. and you plant the same cultivar next season.. and do not rely on the seed yours produce in fall ... be the farmer.. buy the seed for the product you want ... and do it again in the future ... it is akin to alyssum in my yard ... no matter what fancy color you buy.. if you do get seedlings the next year .... 99% will be white ... its all in the genetics ... or the regression of the genetics ken

i have a 32 page printed seed list...see if you can find something you may be interested in. if not would you do a sasbe for the seed? thanks Here is a link that might be useful: trade list

When we moved here from Arkansas 10 years ago there was not a singe hosta on the property. I can't say that the apparent seedling looks anything like either PG or OG. Instead it seems more like Whirlwind in color, variegation, leaf shape and it has tended to darken as the season progresses like WW. Whirlwind lives over 100 feet away under the Walnut tree. Theresa's Angel is darker but is still noticeably variegated. I went out to take pics yesterday and it began to pour. I will do it today. I know this is changing the subject but not entirely. Being a seedling I had no choice in where it is growing, very close the concrete foundation of the garage. I have noticed that hostas don't seem to do well located close to below ground concrete. My theory is that moisture leeches lime out of concrete making the soil too alkaline for their taste. Above ground masonry doesn't seem to be harmful though. 3 feet or more away from foundations and hostas have no problem. Anyone else notice this. Ken must have a gravel driveway if hostas grow on it. Theresa

Black granite with the white veins: Pretty with white cabinets/black&white floor? http://www.flickr.com/photos/58927823@N00/6773461607/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/58927823@N00/6773461183/in/photostream/ Kitchen before but we are keeping floor and basic layout http://www.flickr.com/photos/58927823@N00/6744852465/in/photostream/