Milkweed (age) preference for egg laying?
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Native Milkweed only??
Comments (17)I've seen that reference at Las Pilitas, it's absurd! I think their motivation in posting it is probably genuine, well intentioned, but likely "grow native" mentality taken too far. I'm all for growing native, and avoiding aggressive non-natives -- but it gets ridiculous when you encounter gardeners who won't entertain talk of non-native plants or entertain a trade for the sole reason of nativity. I know that different species of milkweed have different levels and combinations of poisons found in milkweeds. Particularly the Monarch species with it's extreme migratory patterns, lay eggs on all species of Asclepias genus North America, and many other species from other genera of milkweeds -- including species not native to this part of the world. Successfully, I might add. Plus the presence of Monarchs in northern South America -- uh, completely different milkweed species. Naturally occurring and even imported dogbanes (like a Mandevilla) that confuse female egg laying Monarchs and other Danaus genus, or Danaidae family at large, to lay on their foliage that the caterpillar can't survive on are 1000% more threatening than a mature butterfly being eaten by a bird. I've seen studies of egg lays on controlled species, and although they do give insight, I highly doubt that these studies can be applied to the real world in any direct way. I grow a variety of Asclepias species, and a few other milkweeds, and I've observed plant species that are thought to be preferential, to be completely eaten to the bare stems one year, and completely ignored the next. I suspect that maturity of the plant has a lot more to do with attracting eggs than does the species. I've even noticed that where I put plants in the yard has a small influence on attracting eggs laid to a species. I did see a study once where they found a species of milkweed beetle was not capable of long term survival on a species milkweed from a different region of the country. The studies conclusion suggested it could be due to the difference in the poison levels or possibly the difference in the growth habits. In any case, the beetles don't migrate on the scale the Monarchs do, or even like the Queen or Soldier butterflies roam....See MoreLocation on monarch eggs on milkweed
Comments (4)Yes, I was asking about the "higher" leaves on the plant; all the eggs I've ever found have been on the underside. Thanks for the replies. Perhaps I find them more on "higher" leaves because the milkweeds in the fields near us are in grass that is 3' high, so the mommas may just be using what's most easily accessible. Conversely, the BSTs that oviposit on our garden fennel and dill seem to prefer the lower-down areas of the plant, but that's probably just a chance observation too. Thanks to all. stan...See Morewhen do monarchs start laying eggs on milkweed?
Comments (5)Hi Ashley, Maybe someone from your area could tell you when to expect the Monarchs. I'd have thought they'd be there by now, but not everyone can attract them right away. Last year was my first year at butterflying and was lucky enough to get them and raised 70 cats. So far I have one in a pupa, 2 ready to go in one, and 10 munching away on milkweed. I have loads of milkweed planted for them and so maybe the female just couldn't resist stopping by here. I'll see more eventually, I'm sure. Yes, those bugs are Oleander Aphids, and I bet they look like the picture in the link I provided. I never use pesticides on any of my plants. If you do that and a butterfly would happen to come by after that, it could kill the butterfly. If it lays eggs, it would kill the caterpillars when they eat the leaves. I'm not sure how long the pesticides last, but I really don't want to use them and chance losing any Monarchs because of it. I squoosh the aphids, and some people blast them with water. Of course, I don't think that kills them but would get them off of your plant temporarily. Those things multiply like crazy, so I prefer to kill them; otherwise I'm afraid I'd end up having a million of them here. Good luck with things, and I hope the Monarchs show up there. Cathy Here is a link that might be useful: Oleander Aphids...See MoreButterfly Weed vs. Tropical Milkweed
Comments (39)In our community gardens, a wide variety of milkweeds are offered to the Monarchs. Every year they are covered with cats during different times of the year. It's very common to find a chrysalis hanging from a garden border 2x6 or from horizontal vine supports or any number of different plant stems. It is extremely rare to find any of them on the host plants though, as the little cats seem to want to wander off to do their magic. I'm sure there are predations, but I've photographed any of the beautiful little encasinga and even had the privilege of watching the last instar unzip into the bright green chrysalis. Up until that point I wasn't sure exactly how it happened and it was amazing and surprisingly quick! It takes me a bit of searching to find them at this point because they are so well camouflaged....See Moredbarron
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