Love all of the variegated HL hybrids!

Nice. Is this at Chester's?

Impressive blooms. Thanks for the pictures.

Is that Alc. imperialis ? I noticed its leaves margin form undulate.
Its bloom is really amazing (*_*)"

Awesome pictures hdd and now I'm up for a long road trip! Tell Michael thanks for sharing.

That alcantarea pic is awesome! It appears like this one has ridges or spines on the leaves though. Any one else notice this?

HDD, Those variegated Tiger hybrids are beautifull! They DO look more like variegated HL's than Tigers to me, though. But still, very nice!! Japie

AHA! A clue....... ;-)

The 'Tiger' hybrids pictures are complicated mix
(carlinae var X HL) X norman bates
crossed back to carcharodon tiger
This makes this generation much larger than the other
36' plants are maturity

Oooh I want an alcantarea now. I love those giants.
Very nice tigers too.

Yeah, I heard about these and was drooling before I even saw them! A few more generations of backcrossing to Tiger should produce spectacular results, but I know what I'd do with them...... ;-)

That Alcantaria may be a hybrid,as the leaves are a bit unusual,as compared to others I've seen.Those in the photo,at least some of them that are easily visable,seem to be undulated or have spines. Another feature is the lax,droopy,infloresence branches,which I have not seen,for instance,at our Botanical Gdn.plant. So its a question mark,as to being a true imperialis. Any ideas out there?
Bob

Ok Lisa, I'll bite....what would you do with them....???

And tell me, how do they get these complex 'Tiger' hybrids in such a relativly short space of time. Assuming each generation will take 2 to 3 years to mature, flower, set seed, then grown on... Are they grown under perfect conditions, then forced to flower early...?

Bob, that Alcantarea caught my eye as well. My first thought was that the undulation on the leaves was just a trick of the digital camera. I do not know of any Alcantarea so or hybrid that would have spines. HDD, are you able to confirm...?

Nice photos hdd!
IMHO, the Alcant. is A. brasiliana.

There 6-8 different imperialis from different locations in Brazil red, grey, purple, dark forms and giant
Chester has collected them all

I think the wavy edges on the Alcantarea are just a distortion of the photo itself. It's only where the edge of the leaf is nearly horizontal that you see it, the more vertical ones don't show that. There's no way an Alcantarea could have spines.

As to what I would do with one of those Neos, I'd cross it with some of my own hybrids, of course! It may seem like the Tiger/HL hybrids are coming out within a short space of time, but you have to figure that by the time they're actually released to the public they've been around long enough to have been propagated and crossed to several times over. It's kind of unusual that we are offered a glimpse of these ones so early on in the game. I'm pretty sure they won't be available for a few more years, but you'd better believe I plan to find out! ;-)

I agree Lisa since we dont know when the work began. HL and NB were registered in 2001-2002 respectively
I also posted pictures of these plants last April

Am I correct in thinking that those variegates are different clones from a grex? The banding seems pretty variable. In that case those might be one of a kinds.

I dont remeber ever seeing 2 plants exactly alike no matter what they were

I know they're variable. These just look especially different, but what do I know. For example, the plant on the left side in the middle with the broader dark "blotches" as compared to the plant immediately to the right, with finer more uniform bands.

Mike, I'm pretty sure these are as you say, all different clones, but all siblings.

Where'd the pics go?????