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Can anyone help me identify this Amaryllis?

17 years ago

I am very new to this forum and to growing Amaryllis. So far, I just can't get enough! I am really learning a ton of great info from all of you.

The photo is of an Amaryllis I recently purchased at Walmart which was labeled 'Minerva'. It looks nothing like the picture it came with or any of the photos I have seen online. Can anyone help me figure out what I have? I sure would like to know!

Here is a link that might be useful: Photo of Amaryllis in question.

Comments (34)

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Frank, Welcome to the Amaryllis/Hippeastrum Forum. The photo looks like Appleblossom. A very pretty and popular hippeastrum. A lot of times bulbs get mixed up and/or put in the wrong package.

  • 17 years ago

    Frank,
    You have a beautiful Amaryllis. Unfortunately though it seems to be a mutt... :o) It is a mix of some kind. I woudln't worry though. It is absolutely beautiful. But one thing is sure: it is NOT Minerva.

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  • 17 years ago

    Looks like 'Appleblossom' to me, too. An oldie, but a goodie...

    - Steve

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Frank.
    It is a nice one.
    Is it a double?
    It seems to be a mix, not looking like any standerd hybrid.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for all of your responses. I guess when you buy bulbs at Walmart, you never know what you may end up with!

    I thought it may be 'Appleblossom' but it seems more of a red than light pink. My camera didn't really pick up the color as well as I had hoped. It seems to start as red in the center and fade to a light red/pinkish tint toward the outside.

    Werga: I am not quite sure how to answer the double question. The bloom pictured seems to have a double tendency from what I can tell. It has 10 pedals where the other 2 blooms only have 6. The other blooms don't have pedals in front of others as this one does. Is it possible for it to have one bloom double and the others not? It seems very strange.

    I will try to take more photos and try to get the color closer to true before it starts to fade. Whatever it is, I am sure enjoying it!

    -Frank

  • 17 years ago

    Frank,
    I got mislabeled bulbs from other retailers too. It is not necessarily WalMart. I just went to Smith & Hawken in Beverly Hills yesterday and I told them that the amaryllis blooming pre-potted labeled as Nymph was actually Jewel. Then I told them that the amaryllis blooming pre-potted labeled as Minerva was actually Red Nymph. Then I told them that the amaryllis blooming pre-potted labeled as Candy Floss was actually Rozetta. They looked at them, thanked me and left everything as they were...
    Then I went on and bought a Red Nymph bulb for dollars and told them that I will pot it and if it is not true to name, I will just return it, and they encouraged me to do so...
    It was so funny, that I don't even think of it as tragic anymore. :o)

  • 17 years ago

    I meant 14 dollars. It just didn't appear in my message for some strange reason.

  • 17 years ago

    Soultan,

    Funny you should say that because I was just looking at the photos and I like what I have far more than the actual Minerva anyway. It only set me back $2.97 here in North Carolina. Happy accident I suppose!

  • 17 years ago

    It's amazing how even reputable places can't get the names straight.
    I went to a big garden in Victoria, Canada. They had a beautiful brugmansia, yellow flowers. It was labeled "double yellow datura, an annual"!!!! I told them but they just looked at me like I was crazy. Maybe I shouldn't have said "Ya'll got that there plant labeled wrong darlin'".
    Nice plant!
    Tally Ho!

  • 17 years ago

    It seems like the people who work at the garden centers not always really specialists. As I think of it... It is mostly a low paying physical work. Why should specialists go to garden centers lifting pots, gravel, soil and tonns of potted flowers? Of course they don't know the difference. If a pink flower is labeled Snow White, then it is pink for them. God forbid they'd remove the label at least, if it is wrong... I mean you don't have to know what it is, but please don't deliberately sell it as pink!

  • 17 years ago

    I meant don't sell it as Snow white if it blooms pink.
    My Pizzazz and Candy Floss just opened their petals for me.
    I am planting two new bulbs today. Nymph and Macarena.

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Frank. I, too, am new to Amaryllis and am having my first successes with bulbs from Walmart. I am getting some pricey Amaryllis bulbs next spring, but in fairness to Walmart their Amaryllis bulbs have been pretty good for me.The Amaryllis in your picture looks like one I also bought from Walmart called Red and White Bicolor, just a plain descriptive name. Are you keeping the name of bulb and date of planting on "popsicle sticks?" Mac

  • 17 years ago

    Why the heck doesn't my WalMart have any bulbs?

  • 17 years ago

    Hey Mac,

    Nice to see I'm not the only newbie here! I kept the labels that the bulbs came with that were attached with a rubber band type thing. They have been great quality and I am very pleased with them. Bulbs are bulbs I guess and as long as they are pretty decent sized and firm, they are all ok even if they come from Walmart. I did not record the planting dates for them since they were supposed to take 6-8 weeks. I had 3 that bloomed in 3-4 and the others that I was trying to save and plant later are starting to bloom now. I went ahead and planted them today since they are about to open. They were supposed to be for Christmas but they picked Thanksgiving instead!

    Soultan: Are there Walmarts in Beverly Hills??

  • 17 years ago

    I don't live in Beverly Hills (yet :o) ). There are several WalMarts in Los Angeles, but they don't seem to care about amarilli.

  • 17 years ago

    Frank your amaryilla is definitely not Minerva & I don't think it is Appleblossom either. It has too much red in it.

  • 17 years ago

    I haven't got a picture yet of the flower that I got at the grocery store. The tag on it says it's Sonatini Amaryllis. I'm notn sure what the name of the flower is though.
    It has an almost lime green center with pure white petals and around the edges of the petals, there is a light-medium pink color. It's not a double flowering species whatever it is. I'll try to take a picture of it to make things easier.

  • 17 years ago

    I found it out on my own... Oops. I didn't notice there was a web address on the tag (it was covered in dirt).
    It turns out to be a White Trentino. It is the most beautiful flower I've ever seen.
    I am a newbie so any tips and or hints for growing this Amaryllis indoors in a pot will be greatly appreciated.

  • 17 years ago

    flowergirl...Is this the one you have? It's very pretty! I love the pastel flirtations in the petals.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Trentino

  • 17 years ago

    Hello Rene09,

    Yes, that is sort-of what I was thinking too. A very weird and confused plant indeed! I can't wait to see if it will produce seeds.

    Speaking of seeds - who is up for trading seeds if I can get any of mine to produce them? I think it would be neat to grow some from seeds and experience the entire process. Any thoughts or advice on how to make sure they will make seeds?

  • 17 years ago

    That's pretty much it, cindeea. The one that I have has slightly frilly edged petals and has a little less pink around the edges but that's my plant. It's my first one and I can't wait for more of the buds to open. Right now I've got 2 open and a third on the way, not to mention the fact that I have 5 more bud stalks that have yet to mature. LOTS of flowers for me!!!

  • 15 years ago

    It looks like amaryllis vivaldi.

    have fun

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for your input, Bunti! It does look very close to a Vivaldi. It must have been crossed with something else somehow. I bought it in a bin at the big "W" store for $2.97 so who knows! Gosh, I didn't label this bulb and I don't even know where it is now...

    I didn't realize I had been puttering with these bulbs and visting this forum for over 2 years...I don't post much, but visit very often and have been meaning to post photos of my first Amaryllis to show how it all got started... Time really flies when you're having fun with bulbs and plants!

    Keep up all the good info and pictures ya'll!

    -Frank

  • 15 years ago

    Frank
    I am curious, how did the bulb perform the susequent years. To me it looks like fusion of two flowers.
    Any pictures of 2007 or 2008.

  • 15 years ago

    brigarif,

    I don't have photos as it did not bloom in 2007, but I am hopeful it will bloom this year. When it does, that will be the only way to find it among all of the others. I will post the pictures if and when it does bloom.

    If it was a fusion of two flowers, would it most likely bloom the same way again or might it look completely different? I am not familiar with how or what would cause the fusion.

    I hope to get them more organized and labeled with photos this year!

    -Frank

  • 15 years ago

    By fusion, I believe Arif means a cross, a mixed breed... to me, it looks like Apple Blossom is one of its parents... who the other parent is, I couldn't say.

    Either way, it's really pretty... I hope it blooms for you this year. If it does, we can try to help you figure out what the parentage is, and you could label it thus, so you know which it is for future use.

    As for double, it's not a double... a double would have more than one row of petals, like Nymph or Lady Jane. It's a single.

    Good Luck... I hope it blooms this year!

  • 15 years ago

    Fused flowers or conjoint (siamese) twins, that is correct. I noticed this phenomenom predominantly in white/red striped cultivars. It is a malformation among several other possible alterations like flowers with only for or five flower segments, or, once noticed on a scape of a white blooming cultivar, the transformation of a pedicle (=stalk which is holding the individual flower) into a complete, "secondary" scape with bracteous leaves and buds within. Or, what I observed once in a seedling with red blooms, a branched pedicle with two flowers.

    The blooms of Hippeastrums appear to be rather susceptible to these and other "modifications" - on the other hand I noticed a scape of a Jacobean (Aztec) lily, Sprekelia formosissima, with two seemingly complete flowers on one scape. But, those flowers WERE fused at the very base, thus originating from one pedicle like the fused Hippeastrum flower in the picture above.

    As to the cultivar; no it is not Appleblossom. In Appleblossom, the central pink veining is not deeper (stronger) as compared to the more diffused pink color in the periphery, AND, the white midribs in Appleblossom are broader.

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for the input Jodik and Haweha!

    It is very interesting to learn about this occurance. So from what you both are saying and from what I have read, it most probably will not bloom to look the same again?

    I have located it (I think) and will keep you posted when it blooms!

    -Frank

  • 15 years ago

    It seems the original picture has gone away, so I will re-fresh it here for reference.
    {{gwi:432629}}From H. NOID

    Is this Mutt and Jeff? {{gwi:432630}}From H. NOID

    -Frank

  • 15 years ago

    Ah... now I see... very cool looking! It's an anomaly that occasionally happens in the plant kingdom... I've seen conjoined daisies and others. It's a very interesting look, nice and full!

  • 15 years ago

    I see the purple tip on the stigma and wonder if the pollen capsules are purple when they open...that might hint that our newly revealed Queen of Hearts might be in this blooms backgrounds.

    One of my first blooms of the season was an Exotica fusion (doesn't that sound like a great tropical drink?)! It was fused side-to-side
    {{gwi:432631}}
    Notice the second stigma poking out through the curled leaves up top!

    I also had a "double" Minerva last year...different form, but still fused. This was the "spooning" form(!) one right up against the other.
    {{gwi:406112}}

    I think they are interesting...and wonder if seeds will produce anything odd...or just std blooms.
    Kristi

  • 15 years ago

    My guess would be standard blooms as the results, but Mother Nature is sometimes hinky, so who actually knows?!

    Those are cool, Kristi! What are the odds, huh? Two co-mingled flowers in a short time span!

  • 15 years ago

    Frank, very pretty, don't ya just love mistakes,
    when they turn out beautiful! :)
    Susan

  • 15 years ago

    Apple Blossom, Two flowers fused together. It happens not so infrequently.
    ARIF

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