I have various semperviviums, saxifragis, a ground hugging campanula (poskharskaya or some such name). If you can hold onto your plants until November I'll trade with you at the Green Elephant Plant Swap. Details on my page. Regards, Jim

I'm not sure if I have anything you'd be interested in, but I do have a few interesting plants I could offer in tread. Some are less hard to find, but I will still mention them in case you're interested. Cardamom Agapanthus - from seed ('Peter Pan'), three years old Eucomis - from seed, three years old (should flower next year) Rodgersia podophylla Clivia seedling - 2 years old Sauromatum venosum bulb (small - 1 cm in size, just sprouting) Hoya bella cutting/s Saxifraga paniculata (aizoon) Iris pseudacorus Iris versicolor Tanacetum vulgare 'crispum' (Fernleaf tansy) some unnammed Semp offsets (could send pics) - probably nothing special - common ones If any of those interst you, I would be interested in trading for a Y. filamentosa. If not, then I might be able to offer a couple of different things next year when some plants are big enough to divide or take cuttings from (I have about 20 Hoyas that I could probably take cuttings from later in the year) :-) BP

My seeds arrived George! Thank you so very much. I can't wait till spring to start them. Actually I was wondering if I could start them indoors in the winter them transplant in the spring? Any special hints?

I got the large one and I'm planning to put it on risers instead to get some height. It will be a lot when you factor in the lumber, screen, maybe polycarbonate panes for parts of the top. But it's a far more interesting project than building the usual greenhouse because to make that look the way I want it to look will cost much more. Plus I don't know how to do it. It will be an interesting spring next year.