Pam, Swizzle is an F1 hybrid, which makes their seed very expensive. Swizzle is a dwarf zinnia, only 12 inches tall, which limits there use for many people, including myself. Zinnia Whirlygig is 27 inches tall, which is a much more useful height for me, and it comes in a variety of two-color and three-color combinations. And it is open pollinated, so its seed are much more economical to purchase. I have crossed Whirlygigs with other zinnias, to get a variety of two-toned color effects. This is another hybrid with the same coloration as ivory and cherry Swizzle, but on a much better plant. Some Whirlygig specimens have a picotee effect. Some of my hybrids combine the two-color effect with a scabious flower form. However, Swizzles have the advantage of uniformity, and if you want to create a low-growing zinnia bed, and you can afford the seed or the plants, they can be very effective. ZM (not associated with any product or vendor mentioned or linked)

Tammy, I notice that most seed companies deliberately omit mentioning that Swizzles are Fl hybrids, although the high cost per seed is a tip off. But Swizzles are an F1 hybrid zinnia and, consequently, they will not come true from saved seed, because your saved seed will be an F2 generation. Some of the F2s may be very similar to the parent, but most will vary in some way, including the height of the plants. Even open pollinated zinnias are somewhat variable, because they are bee pollinated and a percentage of bee pollinations are random F1 hybrids, since bees visit all of the zinnias in the vicinity, including nearby neighbor's zinnias, and they carry a mixture of pollen from all of the zinnias they have visited. I wouldn't hesitate to save seeds from Swizzles myself, because breeding zinnias is a hobby of mine, and I enjoy variations and surprises. But if you are trying for a uniform looking landscape bed, use the original F1 seeds. ZM

Hi! I have lots of Cherry Ivory Swizzle I could send you and 12 seeds of whirlygig. Let me know. Paradisa

Alice, I have: # Zinnia 'Cactus Flowered Mix' commercial # Zinnia 'Canary Bird' # Zinnia 'Candy Cane Mix' # Zinnia 'Enchantress Giant Double' # Zinnia 'Envy Double' # Zinnia 'Profusion Cherry' I also have a 'Scarlet Red' - I'm not sure if that's the same as 'Scarlet Flame'. All are from commercial packs, except the 'Envy' and 'Profusion Cherry' - those are both from trades. I would love to trade for your: Brugmansia 'Orange Sherbet X Rosemond' @6 seeds **S** Brugmansia 'Rhapsody X OP' @6 seeds **S** Chrysanthemum Tricolor Rainbow Impatiens 'Blitz Orange' (commercial pack) Impatiens 'Swirl Coral' (commercial pack) Impatiens 'Sunny Lady, Blue Moon mix' (commercial pack) Please let me know if this sounds workable to you! Becki