alwazeroom4more, The Pawpaw,Asimina triloba doesn't have a separate male and female plant.It's the way the flowers are timed to be fertile that causes them to need another variety to produce fruit.The Sunflower variety is about the only one I've heard to be self fertile. There are other species related to Asimina triloba (Asimina incarna, A. longifolia, A. obovata, A. parviflora, A. pygmaea, A. reticulata, A. tetramera, A. X nashii)that grow more in the Southeastern US.Asimina Triloba requires about 400 chill hours. I have some seedlings,three varieties of A.triloba,but not sure if they are compatible in your zone. Oregon Grape also grows around here in abundance. Brady

I've just gotten seeds for the above plants. Can anyone give me some tips on starting and growing them?

Anything to be seen on the underside of the leaves? Nice blurry pictures....any chance of some sharper images?

Here is a photo of my Carolina Jasmine. I would say it grows 5 foot a year which I assume is fast for any plant. There are about two plants on either side of the arbor and I would say it took about three years to get to the stage you see. The vine has yellow trumpet flowers in the spring which have no aroma like regular jasmine. Yes, it definitely gets bushy as it grows. Our problem is trimming it over the stairs without killing ourselves leaning ladders, etc. What you see here has been recently trimmed because it gets a little wild looking if let go too long. It needs to be trimmed 3 or so times a summer, maybe more if we have a lot of rain. If the jasmine were on a wall, the trimming would be much easier.