celtic - below are pictures of fridge placements that helped me try to figure out what different ones would look like. I have to say I do not like that fridge B and C stick out as far as they do. Fridge D gives me an idea from a side view at how far it could stick out (just the doors). I like the design of A. Is that the style you are referring to that is $$$. Seems most fridges are enclosed by cabinetry. Probably standard. Layout D was the layout that kind of inspired my kitchen somewhat. They have the fridge and oven side by side and when seen together it actually looks nice. Another option if there is space is just to move the oven down some so that there is usable counter space in between the two. I like all of the new layouts. Each one as youve said has something that you might dislike about it. #3 probably is the best one because of the sight lines, however, I have to agree with Lisa_a in that I like the #3 because of the sight lines, but like the separation of the oven and fridge in 2. I have to admit too that I agree with rhome and that is I liked the pantry location better in the first one because Id like to use that other space as a message center, however, it looks like I gain a lot more cabinet space back in the kitchen when putting the pantry by the sink. These now are just compromises Ill have to make. One of the OP said that having the fridge near the pantry will make it easier to put groceries away, plus where the fridge is at now (new plans) is directly down the hall from the two bedrooms if kids were playing in there. DH is home now so hopefully tomorrow morning we can digest all of this and come to a decision. I guess bottom line is that leaving our kitchen as is on our current plan will create no problems getting around the island because I have lots of space, correct? However, the functionality of the layout isnt ideal (pantry outside of kitchen, no real place for guest to sit on the outside perimeter of the kitchen or is there?). I think the pantry was the only real eyesore there, correct? I watched something on HGTV tonight and the couple wanted to find a home without an island in the kitchen because in her previous house it just got in her familys way. All this talk about islands whats everyone elses view? Love it or hate it? I find that without it I may have too much extra wasted space in the middle. Couple of things I want to make sure I address looks like youre adding a slight wall in the dining room area. Is that just preference because it will look better, or what is the reason for that? I do like that by changing the kitchen I get a private MB entrance and a new shallow storage area. Not sure what Ill use that for yet, but you can never have enough storage space. Would have been the perfect size for a message center, just wrong location. The new MB entrance is that going into old hallway space with closet straight ahead? Can that MB closet be extended and hallway reduced? Vanity storage by MB sink should be a problem. That space should open up and be usable once I reduce down the shower size. Now can you recommend someone who can redraw this out on my plan with dimensions? Thanks to all as always for all your help. Ill give you an update after I talk to DH. Fridge A Fridge B Fridge C Fridge D Kitchen layout

This is a Green Mafia Rant!!!!!!! There has never in the 100 years or so of using CCA material in a gazillion out side areas....One Single case of anyone being hurt by it in Any Way!!!! One study before the give in by the treating indust required a child under 9 to eat a teaspoon of dirt right next to a cca post 3 times a day for 5 years to be exposed to the same risk as drinking 3 glasses of water a day from the city tap. The danger was a Total Hype with money from the left wing gansters. ACQ hasent been around long enough to know,its treated with high copper and a few unknown chem.So because the info is not around yet all I can say is its not OK to use it around Fish Life,they can handle cca but the copper in acq leached into the water will kill them dead. So thanks to the left wing,spotted owl,radical stupid,inviro Mafia thats what you got. Now should your Youngen chew and injest a large amount of acq material say several 2x4s well thats on you. Otherwize you just have to E-Mail the Left wing and see what they can do for Ya. MR person,you got the skills and the tools, build eveything that the Child could come in contact with out of steel...but dont use Glav stuff they could chew on that as well,,,so mabey Redwood Naaaaaaaaaa the inviro mafia hates that as well. Idea!!!! plant trees!!hang the swings/slides on them with hemp rope..Awwwwww Shi%% they dont like that either,,,well use some organic yarn.. anyway fasten all the stuff to the trees and compact dirt down below. Be sure and conduct a study on the Birds they may not like all that rope on the trees,could be a bad thing. Man...Dont worry about it,,ghessss build the thing out of whatever your comfi with none of the wood products for sale local are going to hurt your Youngens. John Mon

Not sure if you are calling the original plan A or if the first one modified is Plan A. I will make my comments about the two modifications. I like the FIRST modified plan, except I think you need to move that bedroom door for "girl" down the hall. If that child is not a person to clean their room nicely, then that will be about the first thing that visitors see. Guests can see the door to the bath in that one, no mistaking whether it is in use before they get to the point of turning the knob, cuz it shows if open. I do like the two baths back to back, for economy in plumbing. One day down the road, you might consider putting a little powder room where that laundry room closet is. You have the space available from the garage area. Now, I notice in both plans that you have a pair of double doors at the back of the garage. Do you have a riding lawnm0wer/tractor to drive in that side? Is that going to be walled off from the car parking spaces? Looks really good, and that area can be reached from the far end of the deck. Your deck is quite sizeable, so if you are looking for any space in the living room, a really short bumpout. However, that would involve roofline changes and also no straight wall through the LR and garage which might be a load bearing situation.

The pergola on that website omahastructure.com, they would have had to do some type of heating to get the board to bend like that. I believe it involves steam and heat. Hopefully someone else with a little more knowledge can clarify. Some really cool designs in their portfolio. How did you find about them? I wonder if they would travel to kansas my deck and patio is ready for some new creative input haha!