Hola janito! :)

Yo no se mucho espanol, pero:

Escribir img src="www.web sitio location.com/foto nombre"> img> en su puesto con img>

Lo siento por errors.

Liltika

Hola Janito! Un poquito Espanol...sorry

Liltika, I am impressed, what was the question, can you translate por favor?

I believe it was about how to post a photo... I only know enough Espanol to get myself into trouble! We have the full version of Rosetta Stone, but I'm too lazy to sit down and learn another language!

Somewhere online, there's a website where you can type in English and choose a language to translate it to... the translations aren't too accurate, but they'll work in a pinch!

Hola Janito! Me llamo Jodi. Yo comprendo poquito Espanol.

Do a google search for BABEL fish. You will find it!

Good Luck!

Jodik was correct, it was about how to post a photo.

It's kind of sad how much I've forgotten over the past four years -- oh how I wish I had time to fit Spanish into my college curriculum!

Happy growing,

Liltika

I, too, have forgotten quite a bit of what I learned in school... I took two years of Spanish, and one of French... and I can only remember enough to find a bathroom if I'm vacationing in Mexico! That's pretty sad.

My son speaks fluent Spanish... and as a Pharmacist, I'm sure it will help a lot in his job. I'm glad I pushed him to be a "well-rounded" student.

I do wish I'd paid more attention in class, though... Spanish has become the "second" language in America, and it would be helpful to know how to converse.

hola. os lo agradezco a todos, pero me he quedado igual, queria mandar un mensaje con una foto de un hippeastrum para identificar, pero no encuentro manera de adjuntar foto en el mensaje. Gracias de todas formas. Juan

Ejemplo

una foto:

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con :

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Que fue más útil?

Liltika

Juan
That is one beautiful hippeastrum. Sorry I do not know its identification. Structurally it does remind of H.Lemon Splendour but this is yellow with orange.

Can you give us some more detail as to where you got it or how you came by it.
Also size of the bloom and the size of the scape would be helpful.

More photos would be wonderful
Jetak

Juan
Esta es una hermosa hippeastrum. Lo sentimos no sé su identificación. Estructuralmente lo hace recordar de H. Lemon Splendor pero esto es orange.

Can que usted nos proporciona algunos detalles más en cuanto a dónde has llegado, o cómo le vino por él.
También el tamaño de la flor y el tamaño de la scape sería útil.
Más fotos sería maravilloso
jetak

Juan
Closer inspection and comparison of the shape of your bloom and the Papilio edge would suggest Butterfly-amaryllis parentage of H.Papilio Like H.Exotic Star or H.Girrafe. Of course that does not explain the yellow colour unless further hybridization was done.

I would like to see an opinion on this, from Hans Werner, who has many years of experience breeding H. Papilio

Jetak

TRANSLATION:

Juan
Más cerca de inspección y comparación de la forma de su flor y el Papilio borde sugeriría Butterfly-amaryllis filiación de Papilio H. H. Al igual que Star exóticos o H. Girrafe. Por supuesto que no explica el color amarillo a menos que más de hibridación se hizo.

Me gustaría ver una opinión sobre esto, de Hans Werner, quien tiene muchos años de experiencia en la cría de H. Papilio

jetak

jetak,

That was an example photo since my first attempt to explain how to post photos wasn't successful. It is "Giraffe" from Royal Colors though it looks more yellow because it's not a color corrected photo. The lighting makes it a bit more yellow that it actually appeared.

Liltika

Probando.img src="http://www.infojardin.com/galeria/data/4545/blackpearl1.JPG";

nueva prueba
:

casi!

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Liltika

Liltika muchas gracias, ya he puesto una foto en el pst Supreme Garden y me ha salido bien, no sabes como te lo agradezco.Gracias. Juan

Is it an English language forum or an international one where everyone should use his or her own native language to communicate?
It kind of annoys me that I cannot understand what is going on in here even though I had no intentions reading Spanish language hippeastrum forums.

I'm not sure if there is an Hispanic version of these forums, although I'd guess that there are gardening forums in just about every country, and in just about any language... I only know enough to guess at what's being said, and I'm afraid I have to ignore the rest of it.

I do understand where you're coming from, Soultan... there are certain aspects of Spanish being integrated into America that I'm not thrilled with. I am not prejudiced by any means, but if I moved to Mexico, or any other foreign country, I'd immediately begin learning the native language and customs... and I'll leave it at that...

There is a spanish forum with several 'amarilis'-threads.

I just don't like threads showing up on this forum in any other languages than English because I cannot understand them. I chose to communicate on this forum and read this forum because I can understand it. There is that nice forum that Hans uses, but I rarely go there because it is in German, and I can only check out the pictures, otherwise, I am completely out of the water there. But I don't attempt to post there in English or Hungarian to force them to translate if they want to understand me.

All I can do is look at the photos, too... and without the information to go with the photos, it's not very interesting or educational. I like to know what I'm looking at. I am more than fluent in my native language, but only know enough of other languages to get in trouble!

I think its time to pass over this post, I ask once in spanish but If I would have known that It will be so a big problem for you i wouldht have put it here. Affortunatly there was people who answer me in a nice way, without think that the language were a problem. If I usually come to this forum it's not only in order to look at picture only, but that I usually undderstandd more or less what I am readidng on it. Whenever I will have a new question to ask, I would make everything on my hand to write it in english in order not to offend anyboddy.

I thinks its time to talk about amaryllis and not about this stupid subjet.

I will continue coming here despite the people who dont agree with me.

Regards for every body.

Juan

I believe we are frustrated, Juan, not offended! And we certainly don't mean to offend you! Very few of us speak Spanish. We're glad to have you as part of the forum, and we enjoy viewing your photos... it's so much nicer to read and be able to understand what's being written about the photos, though.

I, for one, appreciate your translation into English, thank you! I can imagine it's quite a bit of work for someone who isn't familiar with English... our language is reported to be one of the most difficult to learn.

There are other message boards and websites that I wish I could understand... some in German, others in Dutch or Japanese... the hippeastrum photos are fabulous, but I can't understand the captions or read the text. I don't visit them very often.

So, there you have it... I do believe that some of us are simply frustrated that we can't grasp what's being written, and we're very appreciative when people go through the trouble to translate so we're all on the same page.

Once again... welcome, Juan... we mean no disrespect... we are interested in what you have to say, and just want to understand!

U're not a bit intolerant, are u? I think it is great to find a platform where u can communicate with people all around the world.
I, for instance, come from Germany. I had the chance (and no choice ;-) ) to learn English since the age of nine - so I am able to express myself. I learned a bit French too and enough Spanish to understand Juan's messages.

I think it wasn't easy for him to ask his questions - but have u ever thought of the possibility that he is here to practice his English? That he might be willing to learn more? The first step isn't easy.

If u've got a problem with foreign languages, u should post a big sign on top of this page: English only!

Finally, to return to topic at last ^^ I show u a pic of my "Gilmar":
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Thanks for reading,
Janina

Janina,

Your Gilmar is lovely! I read your messages on the German forum and enjoy that. First I read to see the pictures. Some pictures will display in the non-translated version that will not display on the translated version.

Directly attached pictures will not display unless I am logged in (Elizabeth Ann).

Then I use google to translate the messages. So, sometimes it takes 3 views of the same thread to (partially) interpret, but it is worth it.

As you are aware, I have been known to use English on the Exoten Forums, but they were very short and simple messages and the pictures were my primary reason for posting (to contribute). I try to only do that when the message is intended for one person. I laugh sometimes when I use google to translate what I had already translated from English to German using Babel.

My feelings are that if I wish to relay a message to all who view my post on the German forum, it is much better for me to translate to German rather than having the primarily German speaking members have to translate. Let me explain... I translate once so that many others do not have to translate.

I took years of Spanish in high school, but to tell you the truth, I don't remember much of it because I do not use it.

I suspect that in European countries, more people learn multiple languages at early ages. That is not the case in the US.

It may be sometimes difficult to communicate across the language barriers, but I do not mind because the world wide internet is a wonderful place and gettng better each day.

Welcome to you both on the Garden Web! We are excited to have you here!!!!!!!!!!!

Janina,

I tried to send you a pm on the German forum, but this is the translated message of the error that I received.

"They adjusted that you would like to receive private one message only from users from your Buddy list. Therefore the following users will not be able to answer you: Silent fishing rod If you liked to send the message nevertheless, mark within the range additional attitudes the appropriate field, or remove you these users from the receiver list."

I don't really understand.

Cheers! We are trying!

Ann

I'm only intolerant of those who think I'm intolerant... I thought I was clear in my last post... welcome to all.

Let's get back to bulbs, shall we?

Oh!

Jodi! Please do not be offended by the discussion. I don't think that any comments were directed specifically to you, but the discussion is quite appropriate. We need to be able to communicate internationally.

Just remember how many of us have benefited from Hans-Werner's shared knowledge and experiences. His primary language is German, and he has taken the additional time to express his knowledge in our language in order to help us.

We can be more tolerant of those who are new to the international use of this or any forum, and we need to be able to discuss the problems associated with that wihout taken offense to comments that are said.

I will now try to share with all of you a link that was kindly provided to me by Hans-Werner. It is a link to his home forum where he has generated and suppoted a tremedous amount of Amaryllis/hippeastrum interests.

And, YES! They are very strict about reducing the amount of off-topic discussions. We have not had to do that here. EVERYONE has been tolerant of those.

I see this discussion as very relavent, and I hope that we can learn to communicate with each other in the best way possible, despite different languages...

We need to understand each other, and we should never represent the US as being unfriendly to those who speak different languages. I am not saying that you did that, but just cautioning you that we should not take offense to expressed concerns about our reactions.

Now, I am going to 'try' to link to the English google translation to Hans-Werner's home forum.

So, Cheers!

Ann

If you follow the thread to the end, you will see that 'Silent Angel', Janina, responded to my English reply very nicely and with no comment about my using English instead of German.

I must admit that this German forum has been very kind to my clumsy attempts to respond.

We should do the same, don't you think? With kindness... After all, we do share the same passion, even if we speak a different language!

Ann

Oh my...

We are so honored to have you all joining us here.

WELCOME to all of you!!!

Ummmmm..What does "Como pegar fotos" mean???

Maria!

Some of the translations are quite humorous, but this is what you do.

Go to google, then search for Babel. Select Babel translation, then cut and paste the passage that you wish to translate. For instance, if you paste "como pegar fotos", then select Spanish to English translation, you will get "Like sticking photos" which is probably what was not at all meant, but a beginning.

You can do the same with your own messages. Copy and paste to Babel, select "English to German" and it will do the best that it can to translate.

It is somewhat tedious, but quite fun to communicate with others. I have friends in Switzerland and other countries who write to me, and if we do not understand the translations, we simply say so and ask for further information.

I have made quite valuable friendships this way, despite language differences. There are terrific people with invaluable advise, not only hippeastrum, but life and living advise.

True friends...

Ann

Hi Ann! Thanks for the info about that Babel. I will surely try that sometime.
By the way, I have 1 newly purchased Johnsonii that I planted just like my other ammies...1/3 of bulb in soil (potted). It is growing a leaf/neck right now and looks so weird. Should I plant this deep with just the neck exposed? Swan Lake, a newly released white trumpet Sonatini is the same with a long neck.

Sorry for getting off topic. I just wanted to get Ann's attention while she's here and before she gets very busy in school. It must be very hectic in school now huh Ann with school ending soon.

Yes, I have seniors that may not graduate, so I am on the phone constantly with parents. Its a tough time of the year for me and THEM!

Do me a favor, Maria! Plant your Johnsonii in the ground, rather deep, neck barely exposed. If you lose it, I promise that I will replace your loss. Knowing where mine came from, I feel that they should do well in your zone, so I challenge you to try that knowing that I will replace it, if it does not work.

Just make sure to bury it deep!

Hugs!

Ann

Yikes! I'd feel like I'd be burrying my Johnsonii to it's death! First my soil up here is VERY clayish with lots of rocks. I live by the mountains, remember? Second, I have millions of moles that feast on every single bulb that I try planting in my yard. They even tried eating my ammies in the pots as I saw tiny bite marks on the bulbs. Raydio who lives quite near (3-4 hrs. drive), is having success with his Johnsonii in the ground though.

Thanks for your offer of a replacement if ever. It's just that I hate killing any of my ammies or any plant that is. Geeezzz...I will need to gather a LOT of courage to do this Ann...lol! I will look for the perfect spot for it. Full Sun? Morning Sun? Ammend soil with sand?

They like full sun, even here! But they will tolerate filtered shade, even in zones 7b/8a.

However, if you question your ground freezing, place them near brick or stone that will warm the ground during the winter.

LAS!!! I understand the courage thing.... I suffer the same!

Over-protective Mamas are simply that way, I suppose!

I find it rather peculiar that my posts are always the ones noticed when situations like this arise... no one ever mentions the original poster that began the train of thought... not that it matters...

I want to let you all know that I am of mixed race heritage... born at a time in history when mixing races was more than frowned upon by horribly bigoted, narrow minded Americans. Because I am what I am, I was given away as an infant... to an orphanage. I am the last person who would be intolerant of any human being, regardless of race, nationality, creed, social or political class, or any defining physical or mental difference. I am not intolerant, and I will not be made to feel as though I am.

In fact, I am impressed by those of other heritages that come here and write their ideas in a language that must be difficult for them. And I always try to respond in a way that, hopefully, isn't too difficult to understand.

I believe the problem isn't translation of actual words... it's trying to translate what people mean... and even those of us who speak the same language sometimes can't grasp what another person is saying. Some people try too hard to read between the lines, even when there are no hidden meanings to be found... or they might read too fast and miss a key word or two that are very important in comprehending the imparted idea... from what I can gather in these situations, I'd say that actual language should be the least of our concerns.

Let me say this so there is no way anyone can misunderstand... and let me reiterate that there are no hidden meanings, nothing left out or written with tongue in cheek... I am beyond happy to have anyone with an interest in hippeastrums, and gardening in general, join in our conversations, regardless of what language they deem necessary to type in... I am only hopeful that English will remain the main language used as that is the only language I speak and understand. I find it a bit frustrating trying to figure out what is being said when it's not in English. It must be equally frustrating for those who know only limited English or don't speak any at all. But I imagine that's why Garden Web designed other forums... so those who don't speak English at all can feel comfortable using their native tongues, if that's what they choose to do. Still, regardless of language, I am happy to learn from and share with anyone my love for plants. I think we all must feel that way as true gardeners.

My feeling is that it's proper and polite to try to learn a little about the language and customs of other countries we may visit... and while it's a bit frustrating to find that I can't decipher a post, what's really frustrating is when my posts can't be understood for what they are... simple responses with no disrespect, nothing derogatory, and intended only to express an idea or opinion... it shouldn't be necessary to add a rider or disclaimer to a post, but there it is.

For heaven's sake... can't we all just get along?

Hello everyone.
I tend to think if i cannot understand the language, I will either use an online translation site such as babelfish, or just enjoy the pictures.
I work with Polish workers and I find it fun to try and learn their language, even though I havent got a clue what they are teaching me, Im sure some of the phrases they are teaching me would get me slapped if I was in Poland.
I think its time for us to all get on with each other.
Thats my contribution !!
If you think your really confused trying to read spanish. Try this!! this is my ''first language''
http://www.geordie.org.uk/translate.htm

try that lot !! Lol

all the best to you all, and especially Jodik

Andy

Good to see you posting, Andy! You don't stop by nearly enough!

The funny thing is... we own the complete program of Rosetta Stone, including add-ons of languages I was not even aware existed! Unfortunately, there's no room on my dinosaur of a computer to load the program... my hard drives are so full that I have to delete photos after I upload them to my online album, constantly optimize, and recover RAM several times during a normal day of using the machine! I have a new machine awaiting complete file transfer, but there is a problem ghosting it... something having to do with FAT32 partitioning and Windows Vista... I don't know... I'm not the geek in the family!

I agree that even without translation, pictures of flowers are more than worth viewing... I only wish I knew more than how to cuss in other languages! Funny how those are the words we pick up first! Larry understands Bohemian, Polish, some Russian and all the Czech dialects, mainly from growing up in a household where Bohemian was spoken by grandparents.

As languages go, Spanish is probably one of the easiest to learn... each letter has only one pronunciation. But formal Spanish also differs from what's actually spoken. English can be incredibly confusing, what with the different pronunciations of a single letter. Our street slang, and the way we completely butcher formal English, must be totally confusing to those trying to learn!

And I see that it's no different where you're at, Andy! There are different dialects even among the English speaking! And to think... most languages began with Latin... it's really an interesting subject when you begin to dig into it a bit!

Hi Ann :o)

"I tried to send you a pm on the German forum, but this is the translated message of the error that I received."
You will only receive private messages from people who are on your buddy-list. The error was a warning that I would not be able to answer your pm. To change this, you have to do the following:
1) Go to "Kontrollzentrum" (top of the page, left side).
2) Choose "Einstellungen ändern" in the left menu.
3) The second paragraph is about emails and private messages. Scroll down to "Private Nachrichten" and find the option "Private Nachrichten nur von Benutzern auf meiner Buddy-Liste und Moderatoren erhalten" and deselect it.
4) Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click "Änderungen speichern" - finished :)

If it doesn't work, please tell me and I'll try to find a solution ;o)

"Cheers! We are trying!"
This is great :o)

Have a nice day,
Janina

Janina!

Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!! I do believe your detailed and specific instructions did the trick. Just a moment ago, I sent you a pm and did not get an error message.

Oh, DEAR! It never occured to me that the only people that I have been sending pm's to are moderators. All other communication has been via email.

I do hope that no one thinks that I was purposely blocking pm's. This is something that I would not do...

Danke!

Ann