Thanks everyone for the responses. Bboy: I've looked up Autumn Embers and it looks like a great one for my purposes. If I don't plant it here, I'll definitely plant it at my next place, in which I hope to have a "Witch Hazel" grove. Whaas: Thanks for the info. My main concern is yellow-gold fall color, although a mix is nice. I'm really trying to get more yellows into the fall scene here, as it seems like everything is cultivated toward the reds when the growers are going for fall color! I'm going to research vernalis more. Mainegrowers and Whaas: Yes, I think I'm finding out that it takes a really good freeze before the color really gets going. I have noticed that most of my fall color comes so late (Grn. Mtn. Sugar Maple colors just before everything dies for winter!) so I'm trying to balance it to get a really long and beautiful (lots of mixed colors) autumnscape. Re: Rare Find: I initially called them but received little help -just read to me, out of a catalogue or something, info. that I could find on my own. I was really looking for info. from people who could give me advice from their own experience. Perhaps I just caught the wrong two people at RFN that day. Nhbabs: You've said some intriguing things. I've always nixed planing Fothergilla as my soil pH is somewhere along the lines of 7.1, but I see azaleas and things growing around here, so perhaps if one plants them with a lot of organic matter and feeds them with some food geared toward acid-prefering plants, it would work. (On that thought, I think WH is an acid prefering tree, so I guess I could try the Fothergilla since I seem to think that WH will work here!) COULD YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE INFO. ON THE BRANCHING HABIT OF VERNALIS VS. VIRGINIANA? Besides fall color, one of the main things that interest me in the garden with shrubs and trees is form. Also, I noted your thoughts on winter die-back, and I do think now that I may go with virginiana or vernalis, at least in this cold garden. Thanks again, everyone! Amy

OH WOW!!!!!!! Thank you celeste for making the time to post these beautiful pictures.I do hope there will be some more later,Your pictures are so pretty. The dayliliies are beautiful, as always, and that Hybiscus is a real beauty, too.These foliage pictures are so pretty, too. I don't get to see pretty foliage around here hardly at all.Most of the trees are pines around here. when you do see a different kind of tree cant hardly see any pretty foliage like these as they are all blocked in with the pines..I hate pine trees, but, in heavy rain and wind, they don't get uprooted like the other trees do so I guess they are ok. I too, have a hard time sleeping and usually only sleep a hour or two at most for 4 or 5 days, then I get maybe 4 hours a night or two, then it gos back to no sleep.. Thank you again, for posting these beautiful pictures,I love them all. jean

Re: sun tolerance Some 'smart' landscaper in our town planted one in a strip between a parking lot and a high traffic road in a full blazing sun. Extra heat created by traffic and hot asphalt doesn't help either. Most interesting part - it blooms reliably year after year after year despite being open to all winds and other elements in a winter. Despite all odds against such planting it is THE best Preziosa specimen I've ever seen. In late August

WOW : IF you all think I'm sweet its only because of this sweet box I recieved today :))) jeanette you just put 5 lbs of smiles on my waistline If I could even find a waitline :)) these chocolates are so good :)) but best of all was the rest of the box where I found . scilla camp Hyacinth bulbs , scilla siberica bulbs ,witch I will do a search on so I can find the best place to plant them . then there was narcissus trumpet "KING ALFRED" He sure looks like a king also :)) an Iris to add to my collection "LOW HO SILVER" I Hope you saved a few for yourself :))) very very nice fall gifts that are all so very usefull I love them . kitchen set of Towels/pot holder/ oven mitt photo calendar for 2007 Body Botanical bath fizz a pumpkin with 2 pine scented candles a scented sink strainer I never heard or seen these before sure going to use this one :)) package of 10 note cards I Like these & feel you can never have to many with all that I use . the paper lanter be use as my night light I just got a few of them from a close out summer sale & I like them in the bird room :)) & then its the pumpkin tin filled with the candy kisses & all the white & dark hershey chocolates all through the box . what a very lovely box :) its a rainy day today so the picture is a little dark but you can see the spider that was in my box :)) love him & glad it was no bubba :)) Shirley again very nice fall swap & job well done we can now close this one and start our next swap . thank you jeanette susie