Hi there Strouper- I have wintersown phlox drummondi for several years with great success. They are an easy plant to start and grow- when WinterSown. I have yet to notice ripe seed on any of my phlox drummondi just yet. They are so full of blossoms all the time- I had not even thought of harvesting the seed yet. I do not know- but I do not think unripe seed has matured enough to germinate well. I tend to harvest only the fully ripe seed on any plant I gather seed from- and one of the first clues to a ripe seed head to my eyes is a brownish dry color to the seed head. Once you start looking into the seed pods- you will begin to notice the differences between ripe seed and unripe seed in almost any pod you break open. There is a fullness to the seed- a deeper color or sheen to many of the seeds when fully ripe- as opposed to unripe seeds. Take a gander at 'The Seed Site' for images of seed pods and seeds of many different plants to get an idea of what you are looking for- Although I try to wait till full maturity for seeds- there are some times I fell I have to rush the critters for the seeds I want- I will harvest some pods before fully ripe like sunflowers- and leave them on a stem to dry out (usually in paper bags)in the house and then only save the mature ripe ones from around the outer edges- the inner smaller seeds can go back outdoors for the critters who may enjoy them. You have a fun, exciting and rewarding experience awaiting you! Seed gathering is addictive.... be forewarned! Julie Here is a link that might be useful: Phlox Drummondi @ the seed site

The scavelola is gorgeous in hanging baskets, but I think I've only ever grown the "blue daze". I'd also recommend trying the browallia. I have this in a hanging basket (in shade) and it re-seeds there for me every year and does very well. A good winter-sowing candidate. Forget me nots and annual phlox, I won't fool with again. The forget-me-nots seemed to require more water than they'll ever get from me. If you have a bog area then they might work well there. The annual phlox was easy to start from seed, but not very showy and if I remember correctly, the blooms only lasted a couple of weeks.

I've seen plants out local outlets in previous years.

I know everyone is covered for something so I do not need any emails to who you can send to. I just wanted to make sure everyone got something. With the new and improved list I am sure everyone will probably get more than what I know you are getting :-) Yeah! Please remember two things. 1. Have fun and send to as many as possible for you. 2. Please come back and post when you recieve something and tell the sender thank you. (And because I would love to see how many each of you get.) OK everyone here is the new and final lists... *Tammy / Greenthumbgrow 1. Tomatillo - Pineapple ****Mostest Wanted 2. Penny Black *****Mostest Wanted 3. Osteospermum ecklonis and Asti **Will do the happy dance if I get this** 4. Grass - Fiber Optic 5. Painted Daisies (Red) Pyrethrum 6. Bee Balm - red - pink - purple or white 7. Japanese Bloodgrass 8. Lisianthus - Any colors varieties 9. BleedingHeart - White 10. Poppy, Persian White (somniferum) 11. Camellia 12. Pincushion Flower **Daughter wants this one. 13. Astilibe - Any Types or ANY Shady but dry lovers 14, Star Anise 15. Your favorite and Why :-) Kristine / Kristlindgren 1. Asiatic Lily - any 2. Calla Lily - any 3. Tree Lily - any 4. Oriental Lily - any 5. Daylily - any 6. Astilibe - any 7. Herbs - any 8. Columbine - any 9. Salvia - any 10. Hollyhock - any 11. Zinnia - any 12. Sweet pea - any 13. Coleus - any 14. Green colored flowers 15. Blue colored flowers *Dorothy / Dimples31312 1. Canary Creeper 2. Picher Plant-Any 3. Iochroma-Any 4. Gas Plant 5. Hardy Geraniums-any Andrea / Andreaz6wv 1) County Fair cucumbers 2) Provider beans 3) Orient Express eggplants 4) Charengtais melon 5) Favorite rhubarb varities *Mark / markcase1964 1. Joey Ptilotus (Most WANTED!) 2. surprise me 3. green cone flowers 4. watermelon radish or Misato Rose fall radish 5. did I say surprise me? 6. red cone flower (the double decker one, don't remember the name) 7. husk cherry 8. does anyone like to surprise people? 9. scallions 10. leeks 11. I like surprise packages. 12. Valdalia onions 13. garlics 14. did I say surprise me? 15. I may have forgot to mention, I like to be surprised. *Andrea / appaloosa909 1. Lovage 2. Spinach 3. Cukes (Pickling kind) 4. Sugar snap peas 5. Anthurium scherzerianum -pigtail anthurium, pigtail flamingo flower, tailflower 6. Snow Peas 7. Nasturtium 8. Lisianthus (any color) 9. Nierembergia 10. Cutting Celery 11. Nemesia 12. Brachycome 13. Bacopa 14. Abutilon (Flowering Maple) 15. Thunbergia (black eyed susan vine) Any color *Connie / clc70 1. Jap. Blood grass (I'd really like this one). 2. Hardy geranium, any. 3. Agastache, any. 4. Colius, any. 5. Monarda *Donna / sunnyk 1. Any Achillea/Yarrow 2. Any Astilbe...except pale pink 3. Any Blue Foliaged Hosta 4. Catnip 5. Any Artichoke Wendy / Sassybutterfly_2008 1. Flowers in Hot Pinks, Reds, anything that attracts the hummers! :) 2. Gaillardia Commotion Tizzy or Frenzy *SUPER wish! :) 3. ANY of the ornamental Oreganos *REALLY would love! 4. Tropaeolum Azureum 'Blue Nasturtium' 5. Daylilys ~ any but the standard Stella D'oro please, starting a brand new bed in a brand new yard this year :) *Dan, Bump & Stella / Dan the Mailman 1. Perennial Flowers 2. Annual Flowers 3. Coleus 4. Ornamental Grasses 5. Flowering Vines 6. Perennial Flowers 7. Annual Flowers 8. Coleus 9. Ornamental Grasses 10. Flowering Vines 11. Perennial Flowers 12. Annual Flowers 13. CHOCOLATE COSMOS 14. Your Favorite Veggie, And Why 15. Your Favorite Flower, And Why *Nichol / Gardenmom2 1. amaranthus - any 2. basil - any (I have lemon, red) 3. broccoli - heirloom, green and purple -really want 4. chrysanthemum 5. sea pink or sea thrift 6. named coleus 7. cardinal flower (flower) 8. phlox 9. false indigo 10. wolfs bane (monkshood) 11. sedum 12. red valerian 13. hardy or scented geranium 14. annul geranium (bedding) 15. lantana 16. verbena *Alana / poisiondartfrog 1. Tomato, Golden Monarch 2. Tomato, TC Jones 3. Runner Bean, White Lady 4. Papaver somniferum giganteum 5. Any Heirloom flower or vegetable grown in Jefferson's Monticello garden. (I have Pentapetes, Lemon Balm, Impatiens glandulifera, and Dolichos lablab already.) 6. Ornamentals or vegetables with poultry references in the name. Examples(I already have these) Rooster Spur Pepper, Purple Eggplant, Cockscomb Kurume Corona, Poached Egg Plant, etc *James / Haymay 1.) purple podded pole beans 2.) amana orange tomato 3.) paul robeson tomato 4.) schimmieg striped tomato 5.) tatsoi *Angela / Yotetrapper #1 Lisianthus, any #2 Hardy geraniums, any but especially splish splash #3 Named pansies/violas #4 Named Sweet Peas #5 Digitalis cafe creme or green apples #6 any clematis but jackmanni sweet autumn or purple #7 daylillies any #8 black eyed susan vines "white eyes susie", "sunrise surprise","blushing susie" #9 easter egg plant #10 eveing primrose (white or pink only please) #11 chysanthemum blue knoll #12 coneflower jade only #13 coleus black dragon #14 poached egg plant] #15 Marigold Hawaiian orange *Fran / ncgardengil 1. BIG MAMA lima beans (even just 1 bean NO JOKE) 2. Perennial Geraniums 3. Frying peppers or any sweet (NOT reg green like CA Wonder, I have that) 4. Variegated tomato 5. Uncommon Herbs (not chives, cilantro, common sweet basil) 6. Any ASIAN/FRENCH VEGGIES (forgein basically is what I seek) 7 Any Bok or Pac choy (esp mini ones) 8. BlueKuri Squash OR Red Kuri Squash: AKA Japanese squash, Orange Hokkaido or Uchiki Kuri squash 9 ANY Heirloom beans including runner beans (any really ANY trying to collect to perserve and eat as well ) 10. Asparagus Pea aka Winged Bean aka Goa Bean 11. Primula 'You and Me Blue' 12. ANY Primulas 13. Kiwi 14. NAMED Wave Petunias (PLEASE) 15. Tropaeolum Azureum 'Blue Nasturtium' *Chris / grolikecrazy 1. Vines/Climbing/running Bean : Wisley Magic,Favioli Rampicanti Corona, Fasold, Goldfield,Blauhilde, Polestar,or Summer Medley Collection(Sunset, Desiree and Lady Di), Big Mama Lima), clematis Crystal Fountain,avant Garde, any fragrant or showy vines 2. Bleeding heart any newer varieties like 'Gold heart'or hardy Fushias (Ricartonii,madame cornelissen) 3. Digitalis any newer varieties like Candy mountain & Pam's choice 4.Dahlia striped, powder puffs, or any newer varieties like 'Ace summer Sunset', 'american Dawn',Purple haze, or Belle of Barmera 5. Sun plants:Hardy Geranium any (Birch's double, platypetalum, pratense splishsplash, springtime, sanguineum striatum)or any newer varieties like 'Peppermint twist' or big red, butterfly bush bicolor, any crocosmia 6. Shade plants: black elephant ears, jack in the pulpit, chinese hardy orchids,bat plants, giant himalyan lily, caladium any,Astrantia moulin rouge, ferns, astilbe, colorful heucheras 7. Cannas any (I got red): dwarf pink sunburst, red futurity, varieg stuttgart, Pretoria, Picasso, Wyoming, lucifer, Chinese coral, pink beauty, 8. Veggies;Lettuce Heat wave blend,curly ruffle mix, all season romaine mix, any French type corn salad, redbor kale (really want), dandelion ameliore, tat soi, rainbow mix cauliflower 9 Watermelon Moon and stars 10. Mushroom spawns any *Vicki / rosieo 1. Four O'Clocks, Kaleidescope or Longiflora 2. Pennsylvania Dutch Red Lima Beans 3. Poppies, any kind. 4. Zinnias, any kind 5. Orange Hawaii marigolds 6. Any open pollinated or heirloom vegetables, especially heirloom beans or corn. 7. Well, gosh I don't want to be greedy, lol. Kamil / Kamiljablo 1. Tomato White Oxheart 2. Yellow Radish 3. Lutescente Tomato 4. Cipollini Onion 5. Tree tomato *Traci / tansy mi zn5 1. Sunflower, maximillion 2. Anemone, japonica varieties 3. Hollyhocks, creme de cassis or any single flowered 4. Hare's Tail Grass, lagurus ovatus 5. Kiss me Over the Garden Gate 6. Pump Ke Mon, pumpkin 7. Cinderella Pumpkin 8. Ornamental Pepper, tricolore garda 9. Morning Glory, tie dye pink & blue 10. Poppy, Lauren's Grape 11. 4o' clocks, broken colors 12. Bachelor Buttons, polka dot mix 13. Ornamental Corn 14. Surprise Me!! 15. Your garden favorite & why. *Lisa / ishareflowers 1.salvai artemis 2.agastache purple pygmy 3.double balloon flower 4.bergenia 5.coneflower green wizard only 6.coreopsis sunfire 7.red flowers 8.white flowers 9.oriental poppy royal wedding 10.shade lovers 11.ruellia- wild petunia 12.helenium helena red 13.bears breech 14.chelone 15.your garden favorite and why! *Ben / Heyitzbenny 1. Dahlia (something short, not the huge varieties that are taller than me!) 2. Cleome (hardy in zone 6) 3. Lemon Basil 4. Dwarf Sunflowers 5. Pansies/Violas (any)s *Holly / riley17 dutchmans pipe vine wisteria (can you grow that from seed? I'll put it on here just in case) pretty vines humminbird and butterfly plants, except for butterfly bush, I already have that. **BUSHEL GOURDS** please, please, please!!! anything I dont have (I love suprises) hawaiian orange marigold batflowers irish moss yellow perfection viola monarda ANY (Would especially like jacob cline) chocolate cosmos Jasmine (the smelly kind) night blooming phlox herbs (I have enough basil though lol) *Kym/ Flwrs4ever 1. CAMELLIAS ( MY biggest want, for the past few years) 2. Primula 3. Joey -lambs tail 4. Adenium- desert rose 5. Lisianthus 6.Calendula- citrus smoothie 7.Epimediums DO THEY GROW FROM SEED ? ( If Epi dont come from seed, Id love Shasta Daisy, 'Esther Reed' 'Fluffy' or ' Wirral pride') 8. Brunnera 'looking glass' 9. Winter Jasmine ********* (blooms in the snow !) 10. Erygium 'blue hobbit' 'jade frost' 11.Lobelia ANY esp ' Ruby Slipper" 12.Stoekesia 'bluestone' purple parasol' 'color wheel' 13. Poppy danish flag' 'heirloom' or any NAMED 14. BULBS any 15. shade plants Linda / Ibartoo -need 1. any blooming vines ( except trumpet vine or honeysuckle) 2. Cone flowers ( any non hybrids) 3. Rudbeckia ( any kind of short varieties) 4 sunflowers ( dwarf only please) 5. Bergenia cordifolia 6. Pentas ( any) 7. Things that bloom a lot 8. Mexican sunflower ( tithonia ) 9. any perennials for shady dry soil 10. fruit basket peppers. zabecc 1. Salad Burnet 2. Borage 3. Pansies/ Violets 4. Primula/ Primrose 5. Onion 6. Impatiens 7. Paper Daisy (Acroclinium roseum) 8. English Daisy (Bellis perennis) 9. Strawflower (Helichrysum) 10. Gazania 11. Iceplant (Delosperma) 12. Heteropappus Blue Knoll 13. Cinnamon Basil 14. St. Johnswort 15. Lime Basil Susan / susantexoma 1. Salvia coccinea Coral Nymph or Salvia Lady in Red 2. Any striped/bicolor zinnias (Candy Cane, Swizzle Cherry & Ivory, Candy Stripe) 3. Patio Princess tomato or another tomato that's good for container growing 4. Any of these marigolds: Cottage Red, FireBall, Queen Sophia, Scarlet Starlet 5. Jalapeno False Alarm Hybrid or Mariachi Hybrid 6. Alyssum Rosie O'Day or another pink alyssum 7. Pentas, any color 8. Petunia Tie Dye or Pink Sunshine 9. Coreopsis Sweet Dreams 10. Cosmos Rhapsody in Red or Rose BonBon 11. Dianthus Diana Blueberry or Raspberry Swirl 12. Phlox drummondii (annual phlox), any color 13. Gomphrena QIS Mix 14. Purple Verbena 15. Zinnia Thumbelina Mix or White Wedding Grovespirit / 1.Tropaeolum Azureum 'Blue Nasturtium' - Will do happy dance if I get this. Have wanted it for years!! 2. Mizuna "Red Streak" or "Ruby Streak"- I already have the green mizunas, only need the red kinds please. 3. Dianthus, old fashioned- Any with a strong, noticeable fragrance. 4. Kosaitai (red or purple stemmed choy sum). Already have green stemmed choy sum and REALLY WANT red stemmed. Another nice red stemmed veg. I'd like is Saisai purple (rare Asian radish green that has purply-red stems). 5. Viola odorata- Sweet violets (not pansies or johnny jump ups which are odorless) - I am only looking for violets that are noticeably fragrant. 6. Asian Baby Mustard Greens- frilly types only such as: "Golden Frill" or "Golden Streak". 7. "Red Noodle" Chinese yard-Long Bean 8. Strawberries, any of the following kinds: Alpine 'Mignonette','Yellow Wonder', 'Temptation', 'Fragissimo' 9. Wonderberry, Burbank's sunberry, garden huckleberry, or chichiquelite huckleberry (Solanum burbankii, Solanum melanocerasum, or similar cultivars of edible annual huckleberries.) 10. Litchi Tomato Or Morelle De Balbis Solanum sisymbriifolium- An annual fruit, does well in warm climates. 11. Persian anise basil (has silvery foliage and a licorice scent) 12. any of the following heirloom eggplants: Japanese White Egg, Listada De Gandia, Edirne Purple Striped, Arumagans 13. RED Bunching Onions or RED Scallions like Cippolotti Rossi, or Asian Red "Crimson Forest"(Allium fistulosum)- I already have the white bunching onion/scallion, need red only please. 14. "Chervena Chujski" bulgarian sweet pepper 15. Asparagus Pea aka Winged Bean aka Goa Bean (Psophocarpus tetragonolobus). Dee / Faintheart 1. wave petunia, supertunia, or million bells - any color 2. your favorite annual 3. your favorite hardy perennial 4. hardy ornamental grasses 5. your favorite tomato 6. antirrhinum braun-blankquetii (perennial snapdragon) 7. aster azureus (sky-blue aster) 8. aster novae_angliae (new england aster) 9. baptisia australis (blue wild indigo) 10. chyrsanthemum maximum (shasta daisy 'crazy daisy') 11. perovskia atriplicifolia (russian sage) 12. monarda - any 13. phlox - any 14. salvia - any 15. iris siberica - any