Japanese Beetle observations: what roses do they love best?
Rosecandy VA, zone 7
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Do Japanese beetles like ALL roses?
Comments (63)Fascinating conversation. Here in the Ottawa Canada area I never noticed any Japanese Beetles until a few years ago, although I've had roses for about 20 years. I wish they "just lasted a few weeks", but even here in chilly zone 4B the irridescent green vampires hang around pretty much the whole summer and into fall, sucking the life out of the rose blooms. Sure roses are bothered by other things, but nothing like the Japanese Beetles, at least for me. I have a very early rose (Therese Bugnet) that gets a few blooms out before they take over, but then it's a free for all. I have noticed that the most fragrant (Hansa and Blanc Double de Coubert) are the most popular and they don't even open before the blooms are totally covered and devoured even with twice daily visits and "debugging". They are less aggressive on my Knockouts and my Carefree Wonder, the Knockouts seeming to be the very least bothered of all my roses, but they are also the farthest physically from the most scented roses. After they find the roses they are on to the raspberries (leaves) and they bury themselves into the hibisucs syriacus (rose of sharon) blooms. Ah, yest they certainly do fly and probably 1/3 of mine never "drop" into my soapy water container, regardless of how many partners they are mating with at the moment or how carefully I "sneak up" or how close I hold the container. I did see a suggestion of using geraniums to "draw the beetles away". They are supposed to be attracted to them, eat the geranium flowers and then fall over and pass out like drugged party goers so you could sweep them up. Sounded worth a try. This article didn't specify a colour and I had bright pink geraniums. Even when I put the pots of geraniums directly under my handsome "Hansa" they didn't land on the geraniums. Since then I've read that it's the white geraniums that they go for. So, if anyone wants to give that a try, I'd love to know if the white ones work for anyone. Or I've also heard of using catmint, or members of the onion or allium family planted close to the roses Going to give those a try since many are pretty and purple anyway, but I think you'd need something with persistant leaves to keep the scent going. I'm thinking perhaps I should get more of the early blooming roses like Therese Bugnet so that I might enjoy the blooms before the vampires descend, but I really want my roses to bloom all summer and for as long as possible. Just as a point of interest I do work in a garden centre and none of our roses had a Japanese Beetle. I had to fight off other rose thugs that I don't remember, but no Japanese Beetles. Perhaps it's the fact that the garden centre is on pavement and not surrounded by lawn where the lady vampires (JB's) lay their eggs and the adults winter over. Mary...See MorePruning David Austin English roses? Japanese beetles?
Comments (3)Wait until spring to do any pruning because cutting them back now will trigger new succulent growth that could be damaged during freezes this winter. That said you may want to just let Abraham Darby be the short climber it wants to be by letting the long canes arch over (if you have the room) or tie them to a short trellis, although some people keep cutting it back to make it into a tall bush. Jude may throw out a long cane occasionally which you can cut back in the spring or summer. It is more likely to be happy as a bush than Abraham Darby. These are two of my favorite Austin roses, by the way. It may be that you have flower beetles rather than Japanese beetles. Both are a pain to have in the garden, but flower beetles are less of a pain I think. They are easier to control by hand picking and spraying the ground with beneficial nematodes in spring and summer to kill the grubs from which they hatch. After treatment with beneficial nematodes a couple of times I didn't have flower beetles (Euphoria sepulcralis, Fabricius) for years, but they turned up again last year so I treated again. You can google them to see what each beetle looks like. Here is the flower beetle on Prairie Sunrise last summer: Applying insecticides won't do much good for beetles, but unfortunately they will kill honey bees and other beneficial insects. You can buy beneficial nematodes at plant nurseries or on line. They will stay in the soil and do their jobs of killing a lot of unwanted insects that live in the soil like grubs, fleas and ants as long as the soil doesn't dry out. Here is a link that might be useful: How to Use Beneficial Nematodes...See MoreRose Depression and Japanese Beetles
Comments (27)Another interesting chat on Japanese Beetles. I'm in the Ottawa area and after about 20 years of rose growing the Japanese Beetles have found me (and the Experimental farm's roses too). It's disgusting. Picking twice a day hardly makes a dent. Up until a few years ago I'd never seen one on my property. They prefer my scented roses like Hansa and Blanc double de Coubert. Hansa is a very deep color so I don't go with the light colored rose theory, as it seems to be their favourite. My Knockouts are not as affected and my Therese Bugnet seems to have its first big flush before the JBs come (and stay till September). I've tried geraniums unsuccessfully. But I've also read that they go for the tallest first. So, I think the geraniums would need to be raised on some sort of pedestal or bench to attract the JBs before they get down to the rose height. I tried pink geraniums and I've read white ones might be superior. I'm thinking that the same might go for any other sort of "repellant" that perhaps it should be raised higher than the roses to give any protection. Hmmm. Tall growing alliums that keep their leaves and stems all year, catmint on steroids? Mary...See MoreJapanese beetle destroying my rose blooms
Comments (74)@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ your Gaura looks beautiful!!! may it have a healthy long life in your garden. they dont like prolonged wet feet it seems. i had couple planted in spring 2018, bloomed beautifully for few weeks but that year also happened to be wettest year that i could remember in NJ. it rained pretty hard for 6 months or more i think. and i lost both. bottom line - even though its unlikely we will have a repeat of 2018 anytime soon, make sure was the plants are located in well drained soil. mine were planted in average soil and would probably have survived if not for the exceptional rains that year. @Sarena Altman (7a Middle TN) observing the beetles in my garden they definitely have favorites. once my Midas Touch roses stopped blooming they were not seen for few days. not even on rose foliage or on other plants. then my Westerland startded blooming again and within two days those were back. interestinly they did not touch my supposedly-julia child-but-more-like-at last rose, which is blooming barely a foot away from where they were enjoying chewing off the Westerland blooms. i started bringing the ready to open buds indoors since two days and they are gone again without touching the other rose, which also is fragrant though more like clover to my nose. again, no more new leaf damage, though i have damage on all 5 bushes from early summer (i read thatsa when the larvae started feeding on leaves). so, at leat in my garden it seems deflowering is helpful. but they seem to love @CeresMer Zone 7a NJ’s rose leaves as much as the roses, in which case it wont help much. Ceres, do you have fragrant leaves as well? i have one ragusa, ’sir Thomas Lipton’ with delightfully fragrant leaves. even a slight touch transfers the nice rose smell to my hand. this is why wondering. may be the leaves on your rose bush defusing specific essential oil these bugs prefer?...See MoreAnneCecilia z5 MI
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