I live in So Cal, in a mild coastal zone, and am approaching my fourth spring with Eden climber.

It gets full sun all winter, full morning sun/dappled PM shade the rest of the year -- which I think protects it's extraordinary color. A few neighbors will reroute their dog walks to check it out in the spring -- the inner blush and creamy outer petals and the romantic appeal of Eden carries across the street. The buds are fat, round balls that enhance the blooms. I got a few teaser blooms the first year, no pruning but I began tying it immediately; it shot up 12 foot canes and about 15 blooms the second year, it's first pruning; many more canes and about 50 blooms total the third year.

Roses don't go dormant here so I stripped it and pruned this January and it has a zillion laterals now. I'm looking forward to stopping traffic!

I've rarely remembered to feed it, never used chemicals, and water it by laying a drippy hose at it's feet for a day or so every couple of weeks. One thing I do: I deadhead and I tie the canes as horizontally as possible. The blossoms tend to bow downward but this looks spectacular over an arch/doorway.

My Eden, (Pierre Ronsard) is a baby. It has grown slow, slow, slow.
I believe it's growing as an own root rose from Heirloom. It looks healthy (tiny & no buds).
Mild winter here.

Feedback?

I"m in southern Ca, and Eden is about my favorite (along with Brigadoon! ) After about 6 years, it repeats well, but nothing like the spring flush. But isn't that true of most roses? It is so gorgeous ! Its not that thorny and I have it as a pillar rose around a post. Its easy to keep the size I want it. My only problem was thrips, but I've solved that problem with a once a year application of Bayer.

I get a lot of browning of petals and blooms not fully opened here in southern Ohio. Winter kill is also a problem, as well as no repeat. I say "I," but in fact the rose belongs to a client of mine, and I would love to get rid of it, but the client keeps saying that next year it will be beautiful. (Leaves seem more susceptible to disease also.)

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My Eden, (Pierre Ronsard) is a baby. It has grown slow, slow, slow.
I believe it's growing as an own root rose from Heirloom. It looks healthy (tiny & no buds).
Mild winter here.

Feedback?"

Mine grew slowly, too! I had it in a big pot, but I can tell that she still seemed kind of slow in general. The repeat hasn't been bad with enough sun, and she's old enough now to be sending up some new basals. Slow start, though, yeah! In my experience, anyway :)

She gets to finally get in the ground instead of swimming in a pot in a couple of weeks. I haven't had a bit of problem with her, but I bet she stops traffic once she gets settled into her new spot! She's about 6' tall, after 3-4 years (in a pot).

I have mine in a pot too. It has two long canes (about 8 ft tall) and healthy leaves, but not one bud. I've had her for about 9 months, she is own root from heirloom roses and I wish I would have gotten her grafted. She's a slow grower on her own roots. I'm wondering if she'll ever bloom. But I'm very obsessed with her so if she takes another season I'm willing to wait. I wish she'd give me at least a few teaser blooms.

Can someone explain to me how you are supposed to winter protect a climbing rose?! I am in zone 6.

My "Eden" measures 13 feet at the moment. Flowered the first year, but took a while to establish. It´s actually doing much better since it can hide a little from midday heat in the hazelnut next to it. Very healthy foliage this year. Did not re-bloom yet.

firthc2, I´m in zone 6 and found the best winter protection for climbers are strong, woody branches. So I water and fertilize well earlier in the season (=good, fast growth), and stop that later. This way the rose wood has time to harden. I only protect the base of exposed bushes with rough compost and perhaps burlap fabric.

Gardenpictures, thank you for the info!

I'm assuming you don't "de leaf" your enormous climber for winter then either. It sounds like you're able to get away with a low maintenance winterizing!

I just purchassed my Eden last year! I'm very excited as I've admired her for years growing in the Point Defiance rose garden. The rose growing there isn't huge, maybe 6ft and a bit scraggly but beautiful blooms; Though, just up the street there's a woman who has her in her garden and the rose is doubled in Girth and height. My very young Eden bloomed profusely this year after I transplanted her from pot to flower bed, she's short and doesn't seem to be all that hardy there's some blackspot defoliation but she keeps blooming. I've talked to a few nursery men who specialize in roses who say she's not all that hardy but a rose worth keeping. Because I am in love with this rose I also purchassed her sport Pink Eden who was on sale at Lows for $7 I've kept her in a pot for the summer and she has doubled in size and after reviving her from a lack of water from her time on the discount table, She budded up and has remained in bloom since her purchase. I love them both!

I commented on mine back in 2013 saying she was a slow grower, but I was wrong. She just didn't like being in a pot. When i planted her in the ground in 2014 she took off. She's only had one flush however, this past spring and hasn't bloomed since. I'm trying to be patient as everyone says she's slow to get established and will bloom a ton once she gets going. She's very healthy, one of my healthiest roses, but so far, very little bloom. :(

Winterizing a climber is like leash training a tiger. Yes, it can be done. However, it is best left to trained professionals who understand the dangers involved, both to the trainer and the trainee. Normal mortals are much better off with naturally hardy climbers. The biggest problem with that is figuring out which ones they are. Zone ratings usually are for the coldest place the rose has a halfway decent chance of growing as a shrub. Climber zones can be 1, 2, or even 3 zones warmer.

I planted Eden last October and haven't seen a bloom yet. Not even that one bloom to ensure that I have the right plant. Hopefully I will see a bloom this fall. But it's only the first year. I've seen it in person at the Huntington Gardens and it was breath taking.

I am new to rose gardening but for those of you not seeing blooms I have read that you may be fertilizing too much if you aren't seeing blooms. Just thought it might be helpful info!

So glad to read all of these comments! I know I'm not alone, and I still have hope! I'm 5b IA, and had two bare roots from Heirloom, last year, both of which died. I had 1 replaced, which came potted, and it also died (all of which came with teeny little sticks for canes). In their defense, our neighborhood has been plagued with fungals, despite spraying. Our house backs up to what used to be an old farm pond. Anyway. So I ordered a bareroot from Edmunds, and this SOB was a monster. The main trunk was probably 2" diam. It has amazing foliage and resists bs better than all of my other roses. Virtually none so far. Just as I've also had zero blooms, so far... :( I tied some of the canes out, and she went nuts sending up canes from the center. Doh! Maybe next year!

Eden is notorious for this. It takes a while to get going. Everyone says she's worth the wait. I've seen her bloom while small, but mine just had its first flush this spring and nothing since. Its been in the ground 2.5 years. Next year is her year hopefully. She's got excellent disease resistance so luckily she's very easy to grow. I'm holding out for her, but if by year 5 she doesn't perform, she's outta here.

My Edens were mature 5 gallon plants when I purchased them and grew quickly and covered my arbor the first year. They give me two flushes only - the beatiful Spring flush and a smaller flush in July with less significant blooms. They're healthy and nothing beats that spring flush and so I feel they've earned a place in the garden. I have to use other roses and plants to give me blooms through the rest of the growing season.

Well my Eden is in its third year now and it didn't leap at all. I had a decent spring flush and scattered blooms later on. I love the dark green leaves and it is very healthy but just not the beautiful climbers you see on other people garden. It isn't much taller than my floribundas. Although I love its blooms and leaves, I gave up on the idea it will climb in my zone.

I'm living in Australia, eden is a good rose to me, but it doesn't like the rain. the pink roses are eden. last around one week in Australia's summer, not bad.

Pink and white eden, pink eden faded after rain. didn't hold the color. still pretty though.

Beautiful arrangements, Daisy. I had those star-shaped flowers in my garden. I hope they come back from seed, so I can attempt that look. Fantastic.

I think those are Love in a Mist.

Thanks vaporvac, I couldn't remember what they were called. They bloomed in summer for me.

I'll look forward to pairing it with my Eden, whenever it decides to bloom.

I love them! I'm doing the same. Bought a more varied mix to try this next spring!

Thanks Jasminerose4u, except this this 'filling' flower, I just pick up anything that I have in the garden. this time is a mixed eden, white eden and other rose arrangement. my pink and white eden are still young, after this spring flush, I think I will need to wait for a long time to get the reblooms.

Any updates on your eden in Zn 5?

I used to have a good own-root Eden plant which was planted in rich soil and in a spot that got some afternoon shade. I have tried two other own root plants of it and neither have done well. It seems to me that it's fussy about soil, especially moisture content of soil. A nearby friend grew an own root plant from me which did well in his clay soil. He also bought a grafted one which was a spectacularly vigorous plant and heavy bloomer. I am buying a grafted one this spring.

I am in zone 6b/6a NJ. Here is mine, growing in to a Norwegian pine tree

Hello all - I just received two Eden's from heirloom. My desire is to plant them in LARGE pots on my city home's rooftop deck which has a trellis wall. Curious what everyone thinks - is this possible to achieve with large enough pots? I do have a small plot of lawn in the front of the house, but unsure if I want to plant there as I had my heart set on having this rose wall on my deck. Thanks for any tips or thoughts!

My experience with roses in pots is that they need good drainage. I would add a generous amount of perlite and make sure the pots have big holes. I have seen a very tough rose Earth Angel sit in a puddle all winter and not bloom all season. A few months ago I finally changed the soil for something better draining and it is setting buds now.

Fabric pots drain better than hard pots, but they may dry out quicker in summer.

Also you have to subtract 1 zone of hardiness from the rose when it is in a pot unless you place it close to the house. All of my roses in pots are near the external brick wall of my house.

My Eden is in the ground, so I could not say for pots. It was slow to get established for me.

Hi Anna. My experience is roses do very poorly growing in pots. I always try them anyway, but after the first year, they degrade in health and blooming. I do have an Eden rose in a good sized pot right now, waiting for a place in the garden. Last year it had four blooms from it's three gallon nursery pot. I transplanted it into a large decorative plastic pot. This year there is one bloom and the plant is clearly unhappy. Alive, but not thriving. So the best thing I can say is the bigger the better with a pot for a rose. You would need to fertilize well, then because this builds up in potting soil, would need to repot the rose every three years at the very longest.

Hi Anna,

I have this rose in the ground, and it is very, very large. I grow many roses in pots because of limited space and in my experience the big climbers tend to be very sad in pots. You would need at least a half whisky barrel to give it enough space. If I were you I'd put Eden in the front yard -- it is a beautiful rose and worth sharing with neighbors and passersby. On the deck if I were you I would choose something much smaller and more fragrant to espalier on the wall. However, with roses if you really have your heart set on something, well, sometimes you just have to try it out! It might work.

Glorious display of Eden at Otto & Sons today --

I loved your thread above on Otto & Sons' display, and the way they've grown Eden shows off its wonderful drapiness (I'm not sure that's a word). It's a sensuous, languid look (ahem), that really brings out this rose's beauty. That's hard to achieve. Below is my friend Elaine's Eden, which I have shown probably too many times. It's growing here in the semiarid desert and seems to love her fantastic garden. Diane

What beautiful pictures of Eden rose, Diane! You are right, this rose is quite rigid in growth. Creating a 'draping' look isn't easy to do. I've noticed Eden is one rose that truely performs well in hot, sunny locations. Many roses languish in heat. I have my Eden now planted in the ground against a protected south/west wall. In this position it grows strongly, remains almost evergreen and the roses don't burn at all. I'm located on Vancouver Island in zone 8a.

Vancouver Island is a wonderful place to grow things, Darragh. Colette is also pretty rigid in growth and does well in the sun. Most of these climbers sport awful thorns, too, and are a challenge to tame. (New Dawn, for instance). I live in a hot dry spot in the West and most roses love it, but the blooms do suffer in the dry heat, while the plants thrive. Diane

White Eden at Descanso Gardens yesterday.

I'm with Diane Brakefield..My Eden looks like her otto and sons pictures. Eden is huge..with thorns and stiff long stems. Ditto on the 2" diameter canes.The spring bloom is inspiring! It is well over 10 ft and then some...covering the top of my pergola. I do deadhead some and she blooms through the season.

We had continual rain this spring and no black spot on Eden and most of my other roses did/do have black spot from all the rain.

All the rain did damage the blooms some. But she is still kicking them out.

I would highly recommend this rose. Mine is about 6-7 years old ..I live in Oregon ..east of Salem.

I have fast draining clay..boggy in some spots but not where she is. I do not pamper or baby my roses...more like neglect.

I would also recommend Lady Hillingdon rose!! This is her second year and is covered with blossoms..no black spot and I know from last year she blooms continually! Beautiful scent too! She is also taking off..at 6ft so far and going for it!!

Eden is one of my all time favourite rose. I grew her for a few years but lost her a few years back. However in my garden, it just grew to be a small shrub with few sparse flowers. It could be because of my cold zone or the area I planted it in. I plan to grow her again when I actually have time to go rose hunting.

I love mine and I'm in zone 5b. This is my third summer with it and the spring flush was magnificent

Aaron, yours look vigorous compared to mine. I have a feeling I planted at the wrong location.

Every day I search Eden for a first bloom. To my surprise I found a fat bud hiding down low , shaded by leaves. To see it open is going to be one of the biggest rose events of my summer.

Apparently Eden is slow to get started after planting. I have a replacement Eden in my garden. This is it's second year and it is finally doing some growing. My all time favorite climbing rose.

This is my favorite picture of Eden climbing rose. It had to be removed as I had an infestation of rose scale so took out all my roses in this area. There is a small replacement Eden planted here now. Also of note, this is a scorchingly hot South West facing aspect. Eden seems to love these conditions. Leaves stay almost evergreen, and flowers never scorch in the sun.

Darragh Worledge I remember seeing that gorgeous photo on HMF . Thank you for the note that Eden can withstand heat well, now I know where to move mine to.

Are you ever in awe of having something so beautiful in your possession ? In my old age I wanted to see just a few of the great renowned roses. It's beyond my wildest dreams to grow one of the most romantic roses in existence.

Thank you for the reminder to be more in awe of all the beauty I am gifted with in my garden. I tend to be focused on the creating aspect of gardening. Taking time to just be in the moment and admire with a joyful mind is the gift of our labors and talent. I see you are in zone 6b, berrypie. My growing zone is 8, so I am a fair bit milder. Certainly go for the hot area for Eden rose. As well, I am sure you know all about mulching the roots of your roses for winter. I am an advocate of own root roses, finding them to be much easier to grow. As well, they come back true from the roots should the top die to the ground for some reason.

Berrypie, I know EXACTLY what you mean. Sometimes I have to pinch myself that Ive actually grown these roses and am lucky enough to have them at my home in such a beautiful setting, but roses and all plants really, make any space precious. Gardens really are dreams incarnate.

Darragh and Vaporvac, I loved what you both said, it made for happy reading before Amara and I go to sleep.

Sometimes I can't wait to go outside in the morning to see what has newly opened in the garden. Fortunately that's the first thing Amara wants too.

What a sweetie! Both of you.