Hardy, constantly blooming, pink climbing rose for zone 5b?
kelly_indiana
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Devoniensis (grafted) from Palatine hardy to zone 5b? really?????
Comments (10)There are zone 5s and zone 5s. Since that number is only for average winter lows, it ignores things like summer highs and precipitation amounts. Köppen was among the first to create a climate map*, and it is still being used in modified forms 100 years later. If you look at that map, you will see that the eastern half of the US is described as the same climate type, divided in half by temperature. That is the fundamental assumption behind the USDA maps - that within a climate type the variables track fairly well so only one is needed to provide valid information. I have seen versions of this map where the eastern half of the US was divided into an eastern, maritime influenced climate and a midwestern, more continental climate. This seems to be an important distinction for many types of roses. The difference being that the east gets more rainfall, and has comparatively cooler summers. Since many roses apparently dislike both of those characteristics, they will perform better in a midwestern zone 5 than an eastern one. At one point, I decided that you essentially gained at least half a zone between eastern New York, and Michigan, for example. Then you picked up another half zone between Michigan and Montana. This is all a very long way of saying that Yes, I do believe there exist zone 5bs where you could overwinter a grafted Devoniensis, and get some flowers from it. However, I wouldn't expect that to be anywhere remotely near here. *the last time I searched for online versions of this, I could not find any that were legible. Sites that had been using it as a working tool had switched over to various bio-diversity maps. It seems to have reemerged as an historic artifact....See Morezone 5B climbing roses
Comments (15)El, of the three in your comment above, they are all easy to grow. Wm. Baffin has been at the end of my house for 20 years and I have done absolutely nothing for him, yet he is faithful with a big flush every spring and continues with a few blooms through summer. He's in almost complete shade. The blooms are nondescript. My John Cabot borders on red and has a fantastic spring bloom, then has blooms all season. Totally trouble free like W Baffin. Zepherine has a semi double bloom in a beautiful shade of pink, plus, no thorns, plus a strong fragrance. You can't go wrong with these, but I think JCabot and ZDrouhin are the prettiest. Are you familiar with Help Me Find? https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.2572&tab=1 You can look each of these up and see photos of how they're grown in gardens around the world. You did put your zone in your comment. Sorry, I was being daft. Straw, I had no idea James Galway would climb here. I love those blooms....See MoreTotal rose newbie in zone 5b- are dead canes normal in spring?
Comments (9)In your zone winter cane die back is normal for most roses but I doubt your roses are completely dead, A lot of old garden roses have brown or gray and woody looking canes but that doesn't mean the cane is dead. Unfortunately your November pruning was the exact wrong time of year to prune Seven Sisters. She is a once blooming rose and only blooms on old canes. At least one year old wood. So by pruning her in the fall you probably took off a lot of her one year old canes and that will greatly reduce your bloom for this year. Once blooming roses should only be pruned immediately after they finish their bloom in the spring or early summer. The color of the outside of the canes is not an accurate way of telling if a cane is alive or not. You need to look at the inside of the cane. Find an end and snip off a small piece and look at the center of the cane. If it is brown/tan and dried up it is dead. Go down another few inches and clip again and look. Do this gradually down the cane until you find a center that looks white/greenish and moist. from there on down the cane should be alive. Do this with each cane. After a bit you'll get a better feel for what might be dead and what is still alive. Your red rose sounds like a modern rose and die back is even more common. Use the same method of pruning to find what is good, live cane and what is not. On these types of roses it is a good idea to make your last cut at a 45 degree angle about a quarter inch above an outward facing growth node. Take off all the dead wood first and see what you have left before you decide to do more pruning. In your cold zone I caution you to wait a bit longer before doing any pruning. It is still too early. I am in zone 6b and I am just going to start pruning mine this week. A rule of thumb is to wait until the forsythia bushes are blooming. That's usually when the roses begin to show new leaf growth as well and you can see where new leaves will be coming from to make your cuts easier to find....See MorePink Climbing rose/climber for Zone 6 ?
Comments (18)I am not sure what zone I am in but live in Ontario, Canada about 45 km from Toronto. I fell head over heels at seeing pictures of the drop dead coral dawn pink rose online and knew as soon as I saw it had to get one of these. Sooooo figured my best bet was to go to our garden center near me. I wasn't really looking for it but another rose and saw the climbing roses and half heartedly looked at the id tags on them and like WOW!!! There was a coral dawn rose. Hahahah forget getting that other rose grabbed one of them instead. It is a move I have never regretted. When ravaged by the gypsy moth caterpillars this year I managed to stop their attack on it. Would go out every day and pick them off it. It looked like the wreck of the hesperus but realized just how tenacious it is. Has bounced back and even managed to get 2 blooms on it despite its setback. The flowers on these are drop dead gorgeous!!!!!!! And huge !!!!! Wow. Got 15 blooms on it. Said in some cases can grow up to 12 feet high!!!! Mine has shot up since I last bought it. And like oh wow I am so amazed and happy as I was out there yesterday and counted 15 buds on it!!!! Lots of new shoots on it too!!!! Think I have won the war on them. I also according to Darlene spread in a circle around the base of it crushed egg shells as they don't like crawling over them. Gets 3 HUGE blooms on each stem and one ends up having to tie them to the trellis due to being so top heavy with them!!! Here is one of it when I first planted it in 2020....See Morekelly_indiana
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