bad siting for red maple?
Vicki
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can norway maples overtake red maples
Comments (1)I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but i will try to cover the possibilities. Red maple will usually grow faster then Norway maple, and will grow taller, so it should be able to stay above the norway maple and survive very well. But over time, Norway maple, on most sites (very dry sites and very wet sites may be different) Norway maple, being better able to reproduce and grow in the shade of other trees, will replace red maple. --Spruce...See MoreI'm confused.....Red Maple, Royal Red Maple, Crimson King...
Comments (22)Copper beeches have much lovlier coloring, IMHO. I was on a walk in my neighborhood yesterday and saw a Crimson maple and a copper beech side by side. No comparison in beauty, BUT, as you probably know, beeches grow slow. You plant a beech for your children, for the future. There's also a purple leaf plum that eventually gets large enought to be a shade tree, albeit not very much shade. My mom loves those smoke trees, they are fairly large and have good color. I dunno, maybe they've improved on the color genetics of the norway maple, but olive red drabness is what the ones around here do in most cases. Perhaps someone has had a better experience to report. I'm a big fan of natives, I'd plant a copper beech for the future and a japanes red maple for my lifetime. Ya can't beat the beech maple combo for shade and beauty, IMHO, but I'm a prejudiced north country girl. I've been to Lake Geneva, LOVELY area!...See MoreWhy do people confuse Crimson King Maple with Red Maple?
Comments (26)If it was up to me, Norway maples (along with all other non-native seeding trees) would be banned. I'll never understand the fascination with these brown leaved monstrosities, they're like the Lada of the tree world. Red maples (Acer rubrum) are superior in every way (growth habit, spring colour, summer colour, fall colour, less dense, they're native etc.) I shouldn't be so hard on the layman when most nursery workers have no clue what they're talking about. Unless you fully understand growth habit, growth rate, cultural requirements, and ultimate height and spread, chances are you'll choose the wrong tree. Do your homework....See Morered maple bad siting?
Comments (7)When you say Red Maple, do you mean the native Red Maple (Acer rubrum) with green leaves in summer and red in fall, or do you mean the Crimson King (reddish-purple leaved) Norway Maple? I'm assuming you mean the former, and the tree can still get very big. 40-50 feet is not unreasonable. The native Red Maple can have similar roots as it's cousin, the Silver Maple. Both have fibrous surface root systems. I can't advocate removing a tree when it is growing so well. I understand that after a number of years, the roots can buckle a side walk. But they are just so beautiful. Your patio will be the first to be impacted by the roots. 8 feet away... maybe not so much. The main reason the roots can buckle a sidewalk is from city streets that were planted en masse with Red and Silver maples in the 30s, 40, and 50s. There are old streets in Montreal with 80 foot Silver Maples planted, the trunks literally taking up the entire space between the street and the side walk. Walking is an adventure in mountain ranges, and the sheer size of the trunks and main roots have heaved the side walks up and down. That being said, it will still take the tree a long time to get that big. I'd be more concerned about your patio than your neighbor's driveway. Your neighbors will be more impacted by the low hanging branches than the roots. If you have more clay-loam soil (like many of us in the eastern part of the continent) that soil stays mostly moist all year and it encourages red & silver maples to root more deeply. In areas that have drier soil types with little water retention, you have more danger with the surface roots as they only wander to where they can find moisture (on the surface). All that being said, if you have the Purple maple, those things can grow right beside a house and not have any impact on the pavement/foundation! I hope you keep the tree... but that's just my two cents....See MoreToronado3800 Zone 6 St Louis
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