'Ghislaine de Feligonde' is a MONSTER in zone 5
altorama Ray
10 years ago
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Does anyone grow, 'Ghislaine de Feligonde'?
Comments (5)there is a thread on the Antique forum by kaylah regarding Bleu Magenta (and GdF). Take a look over there.. For me the last couple of years it's died to the mulch line. The fowers are pretty but in my garden hardiness seems to be seriously lacking... Obviously if you really want it give it a try but just be aware there may be hardiness issues. You are probably quite a bit warmer than my area so maybe it would do fine for you......See MoreGhislaine de Feligonde?
Comments (9)The story to the best of my knowledge---Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong-- During WW1 the lady GdeF was trying to find someone to save her DH who was missing in no-man's land--- No one would help her so she took a horse and went to No-man's land by herself and rescued him---a rose hybridizer was so impressed that he named the rose after her---I think at one point she came to the US after WW1 If anyone knows anymore about the story please fill in the gaps I think it is a lovely story and a lovely rose. Florence...See MoreMarch is coming in like a lion...
Comments (30)Thanks Susan and Chris. I can have 2 monster repeat roses with thousands of thorns for the 2 towers, I left enough room for a pickup truck to go by in case I need the mulch for the backyard. I can't start with bands though, can't wait for another 3+ years, kinda in the hurry. Right now I have Sally Holmes (3rd yr bare root) , Phyllis Bide (2nd yr band), Peggy Martin (3rd yr band), around a pair tower, winter die back on the first two roses, and Peggy Martin won't grow tall.......the 3rd tower has Coal Dawn (3rd year bare root), Laguna (2nd yr bare root), and 1 tiny baby New Dawn (rooted last summer). I will give Fields of the Wood and Orfeo a try in a diff spot this summer if I can find them, I can always set up more towers later when they're bigger....See MoreMme Isaac Pereire and Zephirine Drouhin - need advice
Comments (13)For me, Mme. Isaac Periere is a gorgeous but once blooming rose in zone 5. I'll get the occasional single flower later in spring, but some years if I don't have any surviving cane I don't get any bloom at all. Most years there has been surviving cane as much as you see here - this also addresses the question of whether MIP can get to 6' or better in our zones. This shepherd's hook is a little over 5' and MIP is eating it for lunch even before it gets started. All those curvy bits are MIP, though there are obviously other roses in the background. It may not be fully hardy to cover a complete arch, but it easily gets 6' or more in a season. Here's MIP with some clematis - I find that most clematis are coinciding rather than alternating with the June rose flush, so I don't know how well most clematis would fill the gap after a once bloomer. Other OGRs that tend to be once bloomers for me include Madame Alfred Carriere (who also only blooms on old wood and is iffy in zone 5) or Reine des Violettes. Yes, RdV is supposed to be a repeat bloomer but a sizable number of the RdV plants sold by good companies are imposters that are a very similar bloom but only a once-bloomer. It's rock solid hardy though and mine combines nicely with clematis, and in this case RdV seems to bloom before the clematis you can see leafing up at the bottom. Rosarium Uetersen is a very hardy climber in zone 5 and I only get one or two bloom cycles from that one. It's a coral color that would want a purple clematis partner rather than one with pink emphasis, I think, in case they overlapped. Mine grows sideways on a low fence but is easily 6-8'. Felix LeClerc is an incredibly hardy climber that has a surprisingly long bloom period, and is almost always among the first roses to bloom in the spring. It took many years before it repeated much, but it does so off and on well into July now, starting in May sometime. It's a good 8-10' tall, here trying to grow toward the 6' fence. As mentioned, Quadra is a very hardy climber, but it would absolutely demolish a 6' trellis. Frankly, any of the nicely hardy Canadians get bigger than a 6' trellis would support. This is an 8'+ arch and it only barely contains Quadra - I tried him as a self-supporting bush and the blood loss involved in training him to this arch wasn't pretty. I think Christopher and Lilyfinch are right in cautioning you not to really plan on a climber for your 6' trellis but instead a tall rose that can support itself with a little support to gently encourage it to stay upright. Most of the self-standing trellises would be mangled and toppled quickly by any self-respecting climber that actually climbs in our zones. You might consider a well-mannered once-blooming gallica like the lovely peach colored Marianne or the dark purple Umbra that can support themselves but appreciate something to anchor themselves. You could also think about a hybrid musk that gets fairly good sized and letting that ramble up the arch. Wilhelm is the same color as Quadra but doesn't get as big and is only semidouble. He's tucked a little into the back of this shot with other hybrid musks - in the front are Heavenly Pink, Guirlande d'Amour, and a little of Cornelia. In the back is a freestanding Darlow's Enigma that gets a good 8' self standing, is rock solid hardy, blooms all season and could both appreciate the trellis support and help provide some structure to let a clematis ramble up the branches. the light colors of any of these roses would complement a clematis well too. Hope this gives you an idea. You might reconsider a climber and instead look for a flexible caned rose to attach to the trellis, or a 6-8' freestanding bush that could stand behind the trellis that you'd use for the clematis. Cynthia...See Morealtorama Ray
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