Am I spreading R multiflora - rootstock question
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Rose Vendors with R. fortuniana Rootstock?
Comments (25)Petalz, 'Fortuniana' normally does not make seeds, and even if it did, they'd likely not grow true-to-type, since it is not a true species. It also resents being bare-rooted and normally dies afterward. I know that we sent virus-free 'Fortuniana' to members of the Honolulu Rose Society, a decade or more ago. Do you know any of those folks? They may be able to supply cuttings within the state. Back to 'Marechal Niel' -- It has been suggested that much of it has a virus (likely NOT rose mosaic) which makes it difficult to grow. As far as I know, no one has ever proven that. But in any case, it does seem that some selections do better than others. We got ours from the plant Greg Grant and others found in Texas -- a very vigorous and carefree form. We then heat-treated it just in case. On 'Fortuniana', it is the most vigorous rose I've ever grown. We've distributed many of those plants, mainly at HRF meetings (Lakeland in 1991, Lakeland 2001, and El Cerrito 2002). ARE also has this form of the plant. So they're out there. Vintage also seems to have quite a good form of MN, but from a different (California) source....See MoreAmending soil on roses grafted onto R. multiflora?
Comments (10)I only have 5 grafted roses i bought and planted in the heat of summer after i removed 2 large juniper bushes. I have about 275 or so own-roots. The grafted ones were potted and on sale at a local nursery. I just plop them into the ground and they have done well despite the heat of summer and i did water occasionally. I have even got bare root own root roses this spring and i just planted in the native soil. The only mounding i have done is in some raised beds i made this summer, because i am on flat land that has some low spots where the water stands for a while in the spring rainy season because the water has nowhere to go. Roses cannot tolerate standing water and will drown in about a week. Roses love water but they also need good drainage. I know they always say to mound the soil around bareroot grafted roses when you plant them, but i think that is because they water the heck out of them after they plant them. I don't think it is necessary to mound them unless you have drainage problems....See MoreMultiflora Cathayensis rootstock for sandy alkaline soil
Comments (17)I haven't done searches at the ag library for full text papers, but there are a surprisingly large number of references to R. multiflora cathayensis on Google Scholar. Many of them are from Chinese scientists doing molecular studies that do nothing to answer the question we had here: what does multiflora cathayensis prefer in terms of growing conditions. It's a basic question that doesn't seem to be important. This doesn't bode well for the future of roses as garden plants. The molecular studies are aimed at cut flower production as a crop, at drug production from roses, at genetics of roses for cut flower production on rootstocks that are less susceptible to crown gall, black spot, and powdery mildew, and at making some effort to figure out what is related to what....See MoreRootstock question.
Comments (8)Nice link--excellent photos. Sow&grow--yes, this May/June, I'll cut the the cane of the rootstock, (the Fortuniana plant) between each bud, & root it under mist. The root stock, by definition, is easy to root. It will already have a successful bud growing on it. Here's a photo of a Fortuniana cane with lots of things budded to it. You can see that several of the buds (the 2 Kordes Brilliant at the bottom, especially) have grown into substantial canes. I could harvest cuttings from these to grow own-root--they are big enough--but I'm confident enough that the Fortuniana will root this summer with the buds already developed into canes. So, you might think, why go to all that trouble? Why not bud onto rooted sticks? Well, that IS even better. NOW, I have lots of sticks of various root stocks already rooted in band pots--this summer, I am READY to BUD! Rooted Dr. Huey sticks: Rooted Banksia stick, already planted in a band & ready to bud: When you get confident that you can root & bud reliably, the very easiest thing is to root & bud together. In early summer, cut your root stock canes, sit on your porch & bud them, then stick them under mist to root & for the buds to heal. Bud & root in one operation. I've done some of this, but am not confident enough in my success to choose this method every time. Especially with marginal or scarce scions, I prefer to bud to already rooted sticks--just one operation to deal with at a time. Here's a Pink Clouds stick budded last fall. I've trimmed off the top, Pink Clouds, growth. You can see three scions sprouting enthusiastically. Yes, tape as many buds as you want on a stick. I like to do 3-4. It's shockingly easy if you use the right materials. I'd say using Parafilm is a must--it's cheap, you can get it from Amazon for ~ $2.50 per roll & it's vastly superior to the old florists' tape. I first tried it years back--in total ignorance--just fooling around. I tried to graft actual stems, not buds, I did it in cool weather, I used florists' tape---everything wrong--& got zero success. I had no real incentive to try again until I started getting interested in some of the old HTs--always hard for me to root, & often poor plants own-root (e.g. Talisman--achingly beautiful bloom, such a poor plant own-root, & getting hard to find). They weren't available from Vintage anymore & if I didn't learn to bud, I couldn't maintain them, get many flowers or be able to share them. Confusing photo, but the big cane on the right is from a Talisman bud on RR. In a couple of months growth in the late spring, that bud made a cane larger than the own-root mother plant that's a couple of years old--and this isn't unusual. You'll have much better luck using buds, doing budding during warm weather (when the plants are actively growing & pushing the sap that will feed the buds while they're knitting into the stock) & using Parafilm--which actually lets you tape over the bud, snugging it into the cane firmly. After actually studying it recently, using chip budding, Parafilm & doing it at the right time of year, I got successful takes on everything I tried: Talisman on Ragged Robin, Mme. de la Roch-Lambert on Spray Cecil Brunner, etc. Here's a photo of one of my first tries. Mme. de la Roche was dying, so I slapped a few buds on a vigorous Spray Cecil Brunner plant--what was there to lose? That was in fall. Next spring, I was astonished to see a mossy cane shooting out from Spray Cecile! Then the 2 auxiliary buds sprout canes--neat! Another confusing photo, but I'm pulling the prickly Mme. dlRL cane out from the Spray Cecile Brunner bush it's still budded to. It's now several feet long. Since the excitement of getting it right I started a bunch of things last year & am enjoying seeing them develop. It's easy & presents success with just a little playing around. I hope you'll enjoy budding this year. This page from Kim's (Roseseek's) blog has very clear photos of all steps Pushing the Rose Envelop--budding And this video, showing Burling Leong's method is also very clear: chip budding Burling Leong's method...See Morenastarana
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