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Comments (2)Yes, the branches all had green centers when I pruned them. I was hesitant, but I cut them back about 6-8" when I planted them. The trunks do look the same, except that they are sprouting lower down. It may be a question of sun, the ones that receive less sunlight are sprouting lower than the ones that are further south. Should I just trim them back hard?...See MoreNewly Planted Trees Under Powerlines
Comments (20)Its still not free though, the power company pays for the crews out of the money paid in everyone's bills... So in effect the poor planting choice is costing all the other customer's money. This makes stupid choices in planting all our problems. This is an aside, but related: In our country, we still allow many activities on private land even though it may affect common goods. That is what we do. In this particular case, we let the private property owner do their thing. Yes, our bills go up slightly as a consequence of allowing private property rights to dictate dumb actions on private land (don't bring this up this way to your far-right friends). So. Several years ago the Private Property Rights movement took their failed campaign from DC to the states, and sought to expand rights on private property, to include effectively repealing zoning. It failed miserably, and it was easy to defeat their campaign (it did not take very long to make folks understand the implications of the initiatives). The public meetings had excellent discussions from both sides, but the PPR movement didn't stand a chance. The point being is that most people understand private property and generally accept that things like this happen, and are willing to have laws on the books that restrict action, but not too much action. And we as a society work to keep it pretty much as is and generally we are happy with the status quo. So. If the power company needs to spend too much money to maintain poorly-sited trees, they will pass more costs to us, a limit will be reached, we will say something, and they'll do something. You can't legislate that everyone must be intelligent and do their homework on every subject. It just can't be done. If the power company wants to charge them, they will. Otherwise they must think the absorbed costs are below equilibrium. [/deep land use philosophy] Dan...See MoreCan i trim a lot of small limbs off newly planted river birch
Comments (3)Only prune dead, broken or damaged branches on a newly planted tree. That new tree needs every leaf it can muster to photosynthesize to make food for it's roots. And making roots will be the main project that tree will be doing for this season and beginning of the next. You'll get more robust growth next season by doing that. Then, after the tree is established in a couple of season or so, you can begin pruning. Even then you should only remove 25% of the total crown each season....See MoreNeed advice on fixing over compacted soil around a newly planted tree
Comments (12)But [a surfactant] does NOTHING to reduce or counteract compaction! It cannot recreate pore space. This is a well-recognized concept with any soil scientist as is fully explained by soil physics. You cannot fully explain soil science with physics or even physics and chemistry, as any soil scientist can tell you. Pores are created by roots, worms, fungi, arthropods, and microarthropods, not physics or chemistry. Once the surfactant restores percolation and allows water down to where the soil temperatures are cooler, the environment changes to favor the biology, and the biological population explosion does the work of opening pores in the soil. Somehow [home gardeners] meager anecdotal experience makes them more knowledgeable than specialists in the field. How does that work?? So you're dismissing the numerous university studies of surfactants already done (many years ago), showing that they are as effective as core and tine aeration? How does that work? Here's how home gardener dismissal of your phantom science works. You don't have the science you claim to have. For whatever reason(s), the specialists refuse to spend 50 cents to try an experiment on their lawn. Perhaps the reason is that they only do science when someone else pays for it. We're willing to pay for it ourselves. Big Shampoo has yet to realize their products are being used in the garden, so they have not funded the universities to quantify the results. Even when scientists try to make things work, you can end up with the Iowa State fiasco regarding corn gluten meal as an effective organic preemergent weed control. For those who read the research instead of the marketing, their research shows the best they could do was 80% weed control, and that was not repeatable. Eighty percent still leaves a yard full of weeds even under their ideal circumstances. Then they patented the product and we have to pay more for CGM than we used to. So basically we home gardeners are trying things that the universities have not tried (yet). We are not necessarily more knowledgeable, but we might have more experience with some ideas then they are. When we find something that seems to work, we farm it out to our peers for review...our peers being other home gardeners. We don't have the resources to do a large scale, randomized, double blind, placebo controlled, project. All we have is peers. So ours is not scientific evidence, but when a few peers adds up to lots of peers having success, then we might throw it out there for others to try. I'm not calling the Earth flat. I'm trying to help solve a problem common to lawns. Are you a scientist with clear scientific evidence, clear statistical results, proving I am wrong? You can sit there and postulate things until you're blue in the face, but until you try it and make your own observation, I'm more skeptical of you than I am of those reporting success. Do we make mistakes? Sure. I used to tout ordinary cornmeal as a universal antifungal product for lawns. It turns out cornmeal is not universal, but it seems to work only in St Augustine lawns. It has no effect in cool season grass. I don't have any research, but I have lots of people reporting back with pros and cons thanking me for suggesting cornmeal to recover a diseased lawn....See More- 12 years ago
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