Man, that is pretty tasty!
Congratulations!

Jeri

That is an outstanding picture. Really, someone would do well to ask for your photographs for catalogs. This looks like a picture Tennessee Williams would paint with words to draw you into the setting.

Wow! The second picture looks like Gloire de Dijon is contemplating joining your family for bridge on the deck! Congratulations.

Jeff

Beautiful, Jean, but scary, too, for a novice like me.

Sherry

I had no idea this rose grew so huge. Do you have it on steroids? Seriously, it's truly impressive. I also like your house very much.

Ingrid

Fantastic! WOW! and again WOW!

Could you reveal the source of your Gloire? I mean the nursery where you got it.
How old is your Gloire de Dijon?

Wow, that is a glorious sight! I think your horses contributed to its vigour, no? Sadly mine is looking poor this year, I hope we can save it because it's one of my favourites. Otherwise, we'll get another one as I absolutely adore those decadent blooms. Congratulations!

MayBee

Next year you and I will not have a deck. It's wonderful Jean. I made the mistake of planting Crepuscule too close to my deck. Whoa. I hope to see more of your roses.

Carla

What a beautiful sight! Looks like a page from "Southern Living" (magazine). I love your porch and the rose just makes it over the top!
jenn

Can we please see a close-up of a bloom? From a distance those blooms look rather loose in form.

My Glorie story.... I got my Glorie from Ashdown in 03 or 04. The second year I had her, a visiting child ran over her with a golf cart, and I thought that was the end. Then the next summer winds blew over the obelisk and uprooted her. She is now entwined in the obelisk and tied to the deck. How we are going to clean the deck around her is now a questiom. I think she really wants to live where she is planted so I will find a way to keep her happy.

trospero, I am posting as much of a close-up as I have. This snap was made the same day as the deck picture. It seems that the blooms open up fairly tight then loosen with age. We have had terrible thunder storms and wind over the past few weeks and that hasn't helped.

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Please invite me to sit on your dec. It looks so lovely and inviting.

Your rose is glorious

I love to come to the Forum and visit with my friends in a warmer climate so I can enjoy roses while I'm waiting for mine to bloom.
thanks so much,

florence

My GdD looks more like Paul's picture. But mine came from Sideways. My GdD from Ashdown was nothing but a stick secondary to the shipping. I have to say that Ashdown (Trish) was quick to send me another rose since GdD was all sold out, otherwise, and I have a pretty Narrow Water but my GdD looks like Luanne's whose also came from Sideways.

Paul, my rose has a peach tinted center, but I am definitely not seeing the real pink that I am seeing in your rose. When I was starting my garden, I got many mislabeled roses so I certainly wouldn't argue the point. I would go out and try to get a real close up on a bloom for comparsion, but it started raining last night and is still pouring down. I will get better shots so we can compare later.

I have two crepuscules (from different venders) and the leaves on the plants are shaped differently, plus they bloom at different times. This type thing is one of the reasons I became dischanged with roses. I planted and worked very hard to label and keep plot maps and then found out different venders send out different roses with the same names. It is totally frustrating!!!

Nevertheless, I love the rose on the deck. It is one of my best rebloomers. Maybe others will post their blooms of Glorie.

I wonder if it is Bouquet d'Or, which I don't have but it so looks Noisette to me and not identical to Reve d'Or nor Crepuscule but similar in many ways and I agree with you, Jean, about the disappointment in mismarked roses and the frustration therefore.

It is gorgeous, no matter what it is. But Paul is right the blooms do not look like Gloire de Dijon's.

I did wonder when I first saw your beautiful picture whether it was GdD because that rose has always been described as having naked legs while yours are totally hidden, to say the least. Also, I concur about the shape of the bloom. Frankly, I think you're better off with this rose because GdD can often look much more sparse, whereas yours is so full of leaves and blooms. I think someone did you a favor.

Ingrid

Now we must know what rose it is!

Well Jean, whatever it is it sure is pretty.

I was in a rush this am when I first saw this, so logged on tonight just to see what the reaction to those first 2 photos has been. I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in the belief that the rose pictured is NOT Gloire de Dijon. None of the images remotely resembles the rose in question. The growth habit alone is enough to indicate that the lovely rose growing rampantly on Nearlywild's deck is something OTHER than GdD.

Nearlywild, you should em these photos to Ashdown, ask them to ID the rose they sent you, and request that they supply (free of charge) a Gloire de Dijon. GdD was, afterall, what you ordered and what you paid good money for.

Jean I have this same rose labeled as GdD and just love it. I have questioned the name too but it is a huge non-stop growing rose monster and has taken over the fence, the 10 foot holly bush next to it and has started climbing the tree behind the holly. To be honest I wouldn't trade it. :)

veelakin - Ashdown no longer sells GdD and hasn't since the year I got mine, probably the same time Jean got hers, due to two things 1. lack of vigor reported on own-root versions of GdD and 2. questions on mislabeling for this rose.

Thanks for all your input. Orchids, it is most interesting that you got the same rose. Patricia, I agreed it does look noisette more than tea. I always thought Glorie was half tea, half noisette so I didn't quesiton the growth. You can see I still need all of you to grow roses.

Now the question is what is the rose? After two days of rain, the blooms are messed up, but I will eventually get a close up of a bloom to help identify it.

This rose has blooms most all the year. Not covered like spring, but scattered blooms. I wouldn't even call it bloom cycles, blooms just pop up here and there at anytime. Again I thought the tea half was making the almost continous blooms and never quesitoned that either.

I certainly can't ID the rose, so it up to all of you who know roses and have grown them for years. Any comments will be appreciated.

Jean, could it be this one?
http://helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=806

Melva, that is what I had suggested, although I don't grow it but based on those pictures, I had always wanted to grow it but my Reve d'Or was so slow getting going that I was reluctant to order Bouquet d'Or. Although my Reve was slow to get going, ti eventually became huge, but it is one of the noisettes that started this untimely dying gig on us this spring. We are hoping to hear from the agricultural folks soon as to what might have caused it.

I'm thinking you may in fact have 'Reve d'Or'.

Which is no bad deal.
It's one of my personal favorites.

Jeri

I agree it looks like Reve d'Or or possibly Bouquet d'Or. Bouquet d'Or is a seedling Gloire de Dijon, so no wonder they seem so similar.

As for Gloire de Dijon - - it was thought to be lost to commerce in the USA years ago. Plants have been imported...but very few pictured online in the USA resemble the descriptions of the original. It's hard to know if that is simply because of our much more southern orientation compared to Europe. After all, Jaune Despez looks like itself in North America.

And how we would be able to distinguish Gloire de Dijon from Bouquet d'Or is a mystery that I'll try to unravel through contemporaneous sources when I have time after the spring flush.

Another possibility for confusion in my mind is the rose sold variously as Adam and as Mme Berard. The blooms of Gloire de Dijon should have the form of Souvenir de la Malmaison. Think of the subtle buffy yellow of Jaune Desprez with larger blooms like SdlM.

A fairly reliable description of Gloire de Dijon:
Desprez X Malmaison?; salmon-yellow to cream-white, stained and spotted amber and pale pink, very large, very double, flat, center petals short and minced, fragrance 7/10, floriferous first bloom, repeats, long stems, growth 8/10, climbing, 2-3 m.

I don't grow or know Bouquet d'Or, but your rose closely resembles my Reve d'Or. It is a much larger plant, but otherwise it looks much like it. I've noticed that some of the roses out by the back fence aren't growing as large as I had expected them to do, no doubt some soil idiosyncrasy. For this reason I would ignore the size difference.

Rosefolly

Paul, I have two Reve d'Or roses, and I don't think this one in question is Reve.

Patricia mentioned Banquet d'Or, and it certainly looks like the picture Melva referred us to of Banquet d'Or. I found a picture from last spring, and I do see some pink spots on the creamy yellow (like Berndoodle describes Glorie) so maybe it is Banquet d'Or an offspring of Glorie. The blooms in the picture are fully open, but new do have some crunch in the center (I apologize for not knowing the rose term) but not as much as Paul's Glorie.

I have Souv. Malmasion and the bloom (of the rose in question) in fullness is somewhere between Reve and Malmasion. The color has more pink than Reve, but not as much pink or as cream as Malmasion.

Maybe Ann (TN) will drop by and give us her thoughts.

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My Bouquet d'Or has a look much more like Gloire de Dijon in that the petals are not loose and frilly; they have a 'formed' appearance. BdO is a lot like SdlM, but there is a vegetative center. Your blooms look much more loosely formed than my BdO. Your photo above looks a lot like the William Allen Richardson picture on the Vintage website.

I've never grown Bouquet d'Or, but I thought the same thing Paul did, it looks (and grows) like Reve d'Or. I have Gloire de Dijon, and it definitely looks like what Paul displayed. Also, GdD does not grow so flexibly, it's more stiff growing, like Mme Isaac Pereire.

When I was in Texas, my Reve d'Or had a LOT of pink in it, I was surprised to see how much more yellow it looks here. I'd say your rose is a Tea-Noisette. Also, check into William Allen Richardson, I believe that's a sport of Reve d'Or.

--Ron

It's gorgeous and now make sme want a Bouquet d'Or. If and when I find out what is wrong with my gardens or my noisettes, I might have to get this one.