Substitute for Park Bio Dome Plugs?
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Comments (19)I get the feeling we are rehashing some of this. I'll link the discussions about the problems with the peat pellets for you below. Some like them, many hate them. Some swear by them, others won't touch them for anything. As to the kits, if you really want to use one after all the info provided then the size all depends on what you will be growing and how many of each. As i mentioned above, the problem with using one kit for several different things at the same time is they don't all germinate at the same time. So you either have to immediately transplant out the things that sprout early and leave the rest, or cut the cell packs inside all apart, OR, what is best is to use one kit for each plant. Tomatoes in one kit, the peppers in another one, all the petunias in one, all the lobelia, etc. in their own kit. See the problem? So if you are germinating 40 pepper plants then buy the 40 cell one. Or buy the 60 cell one and make sure it can be cut into separate sections. The advantage to the Jiffy 72 cell starter other have mentioned is that it can be separated into several different 6 or 9 cell packs so as things germinate they can be removed from the heat and out from under the domes and the rest left. Plug trays work well for those of us that are starting 144 or 288 of the same plant but otherwise you have to transplant out of the plug tray as they germinate to get them off the heat. So I don't think you have really mention what seeds and how many plants you will be working with? Can you tell us? As to the lights. Did you read the FAQs I linked you to above? There is one on the lights used. You can go to Home depot or Lowes or Walmart's website to find out the bulb prices in your area.. Here they are about $9 each and the fixture for them costs about $18. What I really would like is a Bio Dome System from Park's. Did you read the discussions about the problems with them that I linked? But if that is what you really want then why not get one? The only problem with the NK Seed Starter 18 you bought is that it takes awfully lot of potting mix just to start a seed and it will take a lot of heat to warm that much soil up to germination temps. They work great for transplanting plants into but if you want to use them for germinating then just put a little bit of soil in them until it sprouts. But years ago all I did was start the seed in a Styrofoam cups and put them under four florescent light tubes and raised them up when they need to be raised. I started out with them about 2 or 3 inches above the cups. I had no Heating Mat at that time.. If that worked for you why not just stick with it? Just add a couple of inches of soil to the cup, punch some holes in it, and instead of some kit just buy a heating pad and a light? Hope this helps. Dave Here is a link that might be useful: Peat pellet discussions...See Moreseed growing gizmos & gadgets you can't live without...
Comments (37)I agree a zillion times on the heat mats! I have 12 of them and need more of them. I do like the idea of using a heating blanket, never thought of that, it would be perfect size for starting flats of Caladiums this year, as last year I didnt have enough heat mats for them and it took forever for them to sprout. Lights are also vital for me, I have way way way too many of them in our home, occupying 4 different "grow rooms". Other gizmos, I use a large turkey baster for watering individual plants. The baster seems to let out just the right flow of water, as the watering cans seem to spill water into individual plants that dont need watered. This can be time consuming, but necessary until flats are all drying out at the same time. I bottom water all seedlings until they have been transplanted. I also use, well it isnt a gadget but it is a technique really, a gallon water jug where I mix my fertilizer at HALF STRENGTH with water, and I will use equal portions of this (as needed) with WARM water, which gives me a 1/4 strenght fertilizer for all seedlings/plants that get watered. As you know, you should never water with cold water, but if you mix a batch of fertilizer and then dont need to use it all right away (say, a gallon amount), it gets cold in its container. So, I allow the gallon jug to get cold and then just mix with warm water, whatever amount I think I may need. I just use a second water jug and mix equal parts. No fertilizer waste! I also use valve action markers in different colors that I use to right on my pots, so I know what is in them. I dont actually right out the whole name, such as Petunia 'Tidal Wave Silver', but I will simply write a small TWS on the pot, so I know what it is without using tags, because tags can (and do!) fall out. In the off season, after I scrub my pots, I use a black valve action permanant marker and mark over these labels so that the next season they are ready to go. I also have jillions of pie plates, muffin tins, and pot pie tins which I use for sowing seeds. These are the perfect depth for planting almost all seeds. Though, I am now beginning to use more commercial plug trays, I still use lots of the muffin tins for planting up to 25 seeds. I also use cut up sections of plug trays for "jimmying" up the different containers to reach the light. For instance, right now I have several containers with impatiens seedlings and several with petunia seedlings, which are about an inch difference in height. I jimmy up the petunia seedlings in the flat so that they are the same height as the Impatiens, and all plants are the same distance from the lights. My plants almost touch the lights! I also use little tiny baby toothbrushes for scrubbing plug trays and bottle brushes for cell packs and pots. My husband designed some "free standing" grow light racks for me for when my plants have outgrown the shelves. We drape several chains over a table and hang the lights under the table, and I can keep growing on my plants when they are quite tall. I can raise the lights up to two feet if I wanted to! Most plants dont get that tall though before getting hardened off, but the height is nice for getting containers going early. Anyone can build this, just get a good old sturdy table. I also do the wet toothpick trick! Works great for "smashing" pellets also. I like to smash my pelleted seed so that they all germinate at about the same time. Another thing to do with the toothpick--if any of you are like me and want to conserve every single seed that germinates, I get frustrated when I have a container of ready-to-transplant seedlings and I look closely and see several seedlings that had just sprouted. Especially with seed that was expensive, like impatiens! What I do is, I keep an eye on the flats and I will use a toothpick to remove some of those tiny germinated seedlings from the container, and move them one by one into a new container. Since they have just germinated, there is only a very tiny root system, so you dont hurt it at all by moving it. If I did not move them, they would get ruined when I transplant the larger seedlings to cell packs. I also keep an eye out for ungerminated seeds,in particular with impatiens or seeds that I spent a lot of money on. I dont quite understand why they dont all germinate at the same time, but it happens all the time! I will use a toothpick to pick up the seeds, put them in a new container and back under the domes for germinating. This also keeps me from losing those baby seedlings I mentioned before. Tedious? Sure! But I strive to get everything I canfrom what I spend on seeds! Anyway, those were my gadgets! Neat post!...See MoreJanuary 1: What Are You Planting Now?
Comments (50)Yes, dishwasher racks. Hahahahah....my husband has a little side business recycling metal and we have lots of interesting 'junk'. You may notice the 'tubs' are refrigerator drawers. I had excellent germination rates....nearly 100%. The cells with more than one seedling I did as you, thisisme, snipped out all but the best. Not necessarily the tallest because I try to snip the lowest set of leaves and bury the stem that deep to encourage roots from the snipped spots. With 150 starts, I don't need to fool with separating duplicates!! :-) This is the first time I've started in soil and I used Roots Organic. I think this is the key to rapid, strong growth. In the past I used Park Seed's bio dome setup and it uses foam cells. I'm abandoning that now for Roots potting soil. Man alive, those plants look great. I have peppers started in the foam cells two weeks later and they do not look nearly as good....See MoreFor those who start a large number of seedlings...
Comments (1)Mike, in days gone by, several retailers would sell off the out of season items at a reasonable price. These days, I'm not finding that to be true, they just pack them up and wait til next year. Marla...See Morelgslgs
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