White Rose For Pillar...White Cap or Sombreuil?
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Comments (23)Jeanne d'Arc is turning into a real beauty of a shrub as it completes it's second summer in my zone 10 garden (just east & uphill of Venice Beach in LA). It's mostly coastal conditions here on the hilly streets of Mar Vista, and the past couple summers have been pretty cool, but J d'Arc is thriving, even in a position partially shaded by a sycamore in the morning. She's becoming a graceful arching open shrub 5-6ft high and blooms almost nonstop. The pure white flowers are about 2" & sometimes touched with blush pink, and there's no mildew on the leaves or branches- a real feat here as a lot of roses are covered in PM (Teas & Chinas, I'm looking at you), and the fuller flowered roses often ball and rot until late summer. Also, especially with our recent cooler summers - it seems like "June gloom" is now May -early Aug - there's simply not enough consistent heat and sun for HTs and Teas to really thrive. I'm running out of hot spots to baby prize roses, but Jeanne d'Arc seems to be happy no matter where she's planted here....See MoreTell me about White Cap
Comments (10)The same amount of thorns as NEW DAWN? Oh no-no-no that won't do at all. I shovel pruned 4 AWAKENINGs because of the evil thorns. Those climbers would rip me to shreds every single time I had to prune them. Just getting close was an invitation to reach out and draw blood. I put up with SOMBREUIL's wicked nature because of the beautiful, very fragrant flowers and decent repeat. B-U-T I'd shovel prune her in an instant if I could find a smoother replacement. For what it is worth I would have kept Awakening had the flower fragrance been stronger. Alas, slight fragrance + evil thorns spelled her horrible demise. I literally chopped those monsters into mulch. MADAME PLANTIER does not repeat. Enough said. Thanks everybody for your posts. Your descriptions made this choice easy. Patrick...See Morea simple list of blackspot resistant roses....
Comments (14)Hi Hidden, Welcome! I am in zone 6 in south central PA. Here Mary Roses seem very resistant as far as the pinks go. Beverly is too but her form is more traditional. Heritage is very David Austin in form and has a lovely scent. Here is something to consider though. I have planted the same roses in two locations on the property. One rose will get get black spot and one will not. Rather than blame it on the rose, I imagine it has to do with growing conditions like sun and airflow or the weather in general. Since BS and Powdery Mildew are the 2 banes of my roses I thought I would share this. I just re-watched Gardeners World season 2016 episode 22. Monty Don, my guru for organic gardening, mentioned that Powdery Mildew was caused by the plant being too dry. I had never considered that. So this year at the first sign of PM on my roses or clematis or honeysuckle, etc I am upping my watering frequency....See MoreCan anyone recommend a white climber for me? Details inside.
Comments (26)I have to add that I tried to plant climbing roses in eastern Long Island for my cousin -- along her fence -- and was defeated by deer and, even worse, voles, which delight in sandy, pine barren soil and eat the roots, all the roots, over the winter. Sombreuil did fine for a number of years, but then one spring I was able to lift its dead carcass right out of the ground.. No roots at all. But for some reason, Baltimore Belle did better and better with every year. Also Polareis (not a climber, more like a medium- sized tree). That was on the bay side. Though down by the dock at the end of the road there were some huge untidy thickets of ancient Excelsa ramblers looking not very ornamental. I noticed, when visiting the ocean side there were ramblers in front of people's houses creeping along flat on the ground, it was so windy. They looked very pretty that way, though. In any case, there are other things to take into account besides temperature -- namely animals and windy conditions. But nothing ventured nothing gained....See Morejacqueline9CA
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