Don't have personal experience with them, sorry. My understanding is that they are mostly HTs and Floribundas. I was dissapointed in so many HTs and FLs in my life because of BS, that I am sceptical and would prefer to wait and see other people experimenting with them. Hope they are good and then I will jump on them.

Olga

I love my Delbards! I'm not sure of the exact number (I think about 6) that I have but all of mine came from Ashdown. They have been healthy and happy in my yard and blooming like crazy. Most of the blooms are large and smell heavenly. I do spray but erratically and they've had a minimum of blackspot.

Here's a pic of Comtesse de Segur
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Carole

Would be interesting to hear from people who don't spray and live in Mid Atlantic. I am sorry to be a bad sport, but I doubt they will be disease free.
Olga

They rock in zone 4. I have quite a few and love them.
Liane

George, here is Grimaldi. It blooms most of the time and stays pretty clean here.
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Carla

I was lucky enough to get Camille Pisarro on order from Amityville Roses before they all sold out, and I'm so happy to hear that they rock on Zone 4. Shouldn't be a problem in my Zone 5 garden.

Thanks for the great pic, JumboJimmy. I'm so excited about growing this rose. I also have Henri Matisse on order also.
After seeing the pic of Grimaldi, I must have it also. The Delbard roses are quite stunning.
-t

Olga,

It is definitely too early to say anything for certain, but my young Delbards really do stand out for their super clean foliage. I'm eager to see what will happen throughout this season. I'll take pictures and keep you posted.

Robert

I doubt that hardiness is an issue with these roses; a lot of Delbards do well in Canada and they were reported to be hardy.

I do not grow Strawberry Ice but Donny kept telling me that this rose was very clean and no spray for her. Stupid me I missed a trade for this rose.

However, I do grow a few Delbards and I love them. Most of them have better than average disease resistance, including the florist rose Red Intuition. Red Intuition is a bit more susceptible to canker as I loved it to be but because new canes emerge fast after I remove the cankered ones I don't see it as a major problem.

I have been growing Papi Delbard no spray here for three years. This rose has been clean in my yard during this time. Right now it has a few spots, I believe because it still hangs on his foliage of last year while most roses lost their leaves in various storms during winter. But for sake of comparison, Duchesse de Brabant has worse foliage right now than Papi Delbard. The blooms are huge and absolutely gorgeous - I didn't see two blooms on that rose that were exactly the same. Considering how many petals every flower has, it is absolutely amazing that Papi D.s blooms dont ball. It has strong and not easily identifiable fragrance, pepper being one of the components. P.D is positively a winner in my garden. Alas, thrips love it.

Chartreuse de Parme was clean last year and has intoxicating fragrance but having been in my garden only for one season, it is too early to evaluate it.

Imperatrice Farah spots a bit but still has better than average disease resistance to bs - it didn't lose her leaves and the bush didn't look bad at all. (For sake of reference I should mention that I am like Olga not like Robert, meaning that I do not tolerate well roses with a lot of spots.) In my coastal climate botrytis was the number one problem with IF; I intend to use the calcium spray more regularly next season. I. F. grows very tall and quite wide but mine is grafted on fortuniana.

Great Century has enormous blooms, a bit canker prone and the absolute favorite of thrips.

I lost only one Delbard, namely Alleluia. It was grafted on fortuniana but still was a very weak plant. The foliage wasn't too bad but because I sprayed every rose in that bed I didn't experiment growing it without spraying. Sadly, this rose was extremely canker prone and not particularly generous with blooms. It was the most beautiful bicolor red. But since it proved to be a weak specimen, I will not replace it. We were mourning its loss.:-(((

I would be very interested to hear how Papi D. performs in the mid-Atlantic region. My experience usually compares with Olgas but there were a few roses that I could grow no spray that were spotty in her garden - the most striking difference /was Colette, the Romantica climber that has spotless foliage here.

A few shots of Papi Delbard

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I doubt that hardiness is an issue with these roses; a lot of Delbards do well in Canada and they were reported to be hardy.

I do not grow Strawberry Ice but Donny kept telling me that this rose was very clean and no spray for her. Stupid me I missed a trade for this rose.

However, I do grow a few Delbards and I love them. Most of them have better than average disease resistance, including the florist rose Red Intuition. Red Intuition is a bit more susceptible to canker as I loved it to be but because new canes emerge fast after I remove the cankered ones I don't see it as a major problem.

I have been growing Papi Delbard no spray here for three years. This rose has been clean in my yard during this time. Right now it has a few spots, I believe because it still hangs on his foliage of last year while most roses lost their leaves in various storms during winter. But for sake of comparison, Duchesse de Brabant has worse foliage right now than Papi Delbard. The blooms are huge and absolutely gorgeous - I didn't see two blooms on that rose that were exactly the same. Considering how many petals every flower has, it is absolutely amazing that Papi D.s blooms dont ball. It has strong and not easily identifiable fragrance, pepper being one of the components. P.D is positively a winner in my garden. Alas, thrips love it.

Chartreuse de Parme was clean last year and has intoxicating fragrance but having been in my garden only for one season, it is too early to evaluate it.

Imperatrice Farah spots a bit but still has better than average disease resistance to bs - it didn't lose her leaves and the bush didn't look bad at all. (For sake of reference I should mention that I am like Olga not like Robert, meaning that I do not tolerate well roses with a lot of spots.) In my coastal climate botrytis was the number one problem with IF; I intend to use the calcium spray more regularly next season. I. F. grows very tall and quite wide but mine is grafted on fortuniana.

Great Century has enormous blooms, a bit canker prone and the absolute favorite of thrips.

I lost only one Delbard, namely Alleluia. It was grafted on fortuniana but still was a very weak plant. The foliage wasn't too bad but because I sprayed every rose in that bed I didn't experiment growing it without spraying. Sadly, this rose was extremely canker prone and not particularly generous with blooms. It was the most beautiful bicolor red. But since it proved to be a weak specimen, I will not replace it. We were mourning its loss.:-(((

I would be very interested to hear how Papi D. performs in the mid-Atlantic region. My experience usually compares with Olgas but there were a few roses that I could grow no spray that were spotty in her garden - the most striking difference /was Colette, the Romantica climber that has spotless foliage here.

A few shots of Papi Delbard

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I have also been considering Delbard roses but I was concerned about hardiness. Does zone 4 Canada mean the same thing as zone 4 in the U.S.? In Chicago it can get -15 F and very occasionally -20.

That Papi Delbard looks really nice (and I like very much the idea of the strong fragrance), but what really intrigues me are the Painter series roses.

The Camille Pisarro looks great; Delbard, however, does not appear to stress it's disease resistance, as it does for, say Alfred Sisley or Maurice Utrillo.

Guess I need to look at their site on some of the other series roses, too. It appears they are stressing disease resistance more of late, on the newer roses.

Could still add to my order from Pat? I wonder if she'd have any recommendation?

Ceterum, I only saw one bloom on my Chartruese but am anxiously awaiting another!
Robert, which ones do you grow?

Carla

I've got quite a few Delbard roses. I do not spray.... at least not so far. I get tons of BS in early spring, and last yr had a lot of PM too. But my temps are pretty hot by summer, so it all pretty much goes away by then. I don't remember how bad most of these get diseases, but nothing really stands out that I remember that does get 'em.

Here are a few :

MAMY BLUE - a nodding, blue-lavender ht
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VOL DE NUIT - not the best picture, but it's a gorgeous very full lavender ht
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ALELUIA - a really intense deep red w/white reverse that glows
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RED INTUITION - my all-time favorite
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BLACK PEARL - a good dark red
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FRANCE LIBRE - a gorgeous orange & yellow blend
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SOUTINE - a beautiful striped florist rose
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GRIMALDI - striped beauty
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GUY SAVOY - from the chef series
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EDGAR DEGAS - from the painter series
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CAMILLE PISSARRO
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ALFRED SISLEY
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Well, at least we now know who's the king of stripers. That's quite a collection, Beth.

Soeur Emmanuelle is beautiful. It doesn't look that full in Lisbon. I wonder how it handles heat.

Here are the Delbards that I've got in my garden so far (I think):

Pierre Gagnaire
Comtesse de Segur
Saint Exupery
Chartreuse de Parme
Dames de Chenonceau
Juliette Greco
Mme. Figaro
Nahema
Papi Delbard

They are all very young, but they seem extraordinarily vigorous and healthy.

robert

Hmmmm, Robert, I have Pierre Gagnaire coming next week and am very tempted to get Nahema. And Papi Delbard was recommended by Mari. You say they're healthy; are you in an area with a lot of BS pressure? Is your garden no-spray? Tell me more.
Thanks!!
Sherry

If you are looking more info on Delbards there is a downloadable PDF file that is part of the latest E-Gazette that came from Ashdown. I downloaded it and it has some good info as well as some gorgeous rose porn.

Here's a link:

Carole

Here is a link that might be useful: Ashdown E-Gazette

I have been wanting Madame V. Dimitriu for quite some time, anybody know where I can find one?

Kathy

Here is a link that might be useful: Madame V. Dimitriu

Kathy,

A lot of their older roses are slowly coming over to us and going through quarantine. We hope to release more of the older ones slowly over time. Knowing that people want a particular one will certainly guide us in that!

Nice to hear comments from folks about the Delbards. Thank you for taking the time to post and please give us feedback directly to the nursery good and bad. We want to gather information about which ones do well in various parts of the country so we can make that available to customers.

PS. I meant to say "also" give us feedback to the nursery. I realized what I wrote might imply to stop posting here, which is not what I meant! Sorry, I haven't had my coffee yet

Paul, I hope you get DIORRESSENCE. That's one I've wanted for a loooong time!!!

Hi, I'm new to this forum. Also,I'm fairly new to roses and I hadn't heard of Delbard roses before. I didn't know it but I already had one;Grimaldi. I Live in Zone 4 Minnesota and just like any floribunda here it dies back to the ground every winter. In fact I thought I had lost it last year as the rootstock died on it, but it came back. It has had trouble with BS for me, not as much as some, but more than I would like.

The pictures posted here of the Delbards a just stunning. I'm going to look into getting a few more. Hopefully they will have better BS resistance than Grimaldi does for me.

I must get Le Rouge et le Noir. This was on of my favorite novels in my tens so I wanted to get it just for that reason. But if the rose is truly fragrant it is a must, must, must.
I wonder if there is a Delbard rose in making with the name of Le Rouge et le Blanc, another favorite novel of mine by Stendhal. It should be red and white bicolor and hopefully similarly beautiful but much stronger plant than Alleluia was.
Is there any hope for that?

I think they look gorgeous! I have order a bunch for this year. I have also order some from Hortico. Hortico was great last year so I am hoping all will go well again this year.

If memory serves me correctly, Pat Henry told me that she was crying on Easter Sunday last as she lost so many roses in her lush, beautiful garden and for days thereafter, she found freeze damage and dying roses, but I do believe she told me she did NOT LOSE a single Delbard, that all fared well in the late freeze.

Here is a nice Delbard pdf from the latest Ashdown newsletter.
https://www.ashdownroses.com/dl/ASHDdelbard_102907.pdf

Here is a link that might be useful: Delbard pdf

Paul,

Per your suggestion, I have sent an email to the nursery regarding Madame V. Dimitriu. I have this rose on my HMF wish list. When you update HMF with inventory of this rose, they will send me notification and I will be a very happy lady.

Kathy

Sherry,

All of my Delbards were added last year (2007), so take this with that caveat in mind. I grow totally no spray. My BS pressure is high. I can distinguish the little Delbards because they still have healthy leaves and look as though they're going to take off as soon as they see the green light of spring.

Robert

CAMILLE PISSARRO is stunning. I don't know why I didn't get that rose for this spring.

As far as I see Ashdown currently has no Delbards listed for sale.

If you want a Delbard from Ashdown, you have to request it from their library. I think they've had very high demand on these roses which is why they don't often get listed for sale. Both of my Delbard's, Grimaldi and Edgar Degas, did very well in their first winter. Grimaldi is already a large bush and just started blooming. I got Henri Matisse and Imperatrice Farah this year, and I'm hoping to get a few more next year.

Well, were else can one get them? I really like some of the striped ones.

Roses Unlimited has a couple including Henri Matisse and Alfred Sisley. Wisconsin Roses has Red and Pink Intuition. Hortico has a bunch but I can't vouch for the quality or availability.

Does anyone grow Red Intuition in Zone 5? I was curious about its winter hardiness.
-terry

I'll let you know next spring Terry. I've got both Red and Pink Intuition although Pink hasn't grown yet so I'm a little worried about it.

I was at Roses Unlimited last week and they had Guy Savoy. I had purchased one earlier in the year. It was not listed in their little catalog but they still had it last week.

Does anyone know of varigated Rose leaves apart from Verschuren and Delbards "Elie Semoun" ?