Excellent quotes, Don. Yes, conquering our personal of perceived fears is difficult, but it can be done by taking a step by step look at the fears. I can conjure up more fears in my mind than I have ever faced in RL. It sounds easy, it is not, but possible.

I have to contradict Julius Caesar, I know there are a lot of people who don't think as I do. Good quotes to mull over.

Thanks for the tree quotes, they warm my heart. My neighbor down the street, found a tiny , volunteer tree growing in her flower bed. She let it stay and pruned it when necessary. She did a great job At some point it was big enough to be planted in the front yard. It is now a beautiful 9' tree. It is not often we see a "home grown" tree here in Silicon Valley, where instant gratification is the norm.

I think what you've said is incredibly interesting. There are those that think scientific knowledge IS wisdom. Maybe they aren't the same thing? But I dunno. I am not sure you can have scientific knowlege devoid of wisdom, even if you have wisdom devoid of science intellect. Does that make sense? Or is science ONLY a way of thinking? Now I am thinking a million different things. That makes you better than Carl Sagan. In my book.