Hi Ami, Describe how much sun the area gets and if it's dry or damp. Somebody here will come up with the perfect groundcover for you! I had a heck of a time deciding what to put on a dry north facing bank. I threatened to put creeping charlie on it so we wouldn't have to mow. I'm working on it bit by bit - and not using creeping charlie. Welcome to the forum. Everone here is terrific and really helpful. Cricket

Here are some groundcovers that will take sun: Fragaria 'Pink Panda' - Pink Panda Strawberry - low-growing, will cascade over the planter, evergreen (maybe semi-evergreen in Grenada) Sedum - there are too many low-growing sedums to list, also taller ones to vary the height in the planter Delosperma (Ice Plant) - another low grower with colorful flowers Oregano - one of the cascading oreganos is beautiful Golden Creeping Jenny - bright chartreuse - will hang over sides of planter Ophipogon (black mondo grass) - Spiky, looks gorgeous with golden creeping Jenny Dianthus - try Bath's Pink - spreads well and has height A combination of sedums, creeping jenny, and black mondo grass would be dramatic, especially considering the sedum colors you could combine with the chatreuse and black. Good luck.

I absolutely agree with the part played by relentless new coverage, cameras and cell phones everywhere. It serves as a double sword to encourage a lot of sympathy but it also reveals real corruption making it seem as if a whole group is corrupt (or that a whole group is victimized for that matter). Sometimes it seems like certain people want their 15 minutes of fame nowadays since everyone is capable of becoming a star in the movie of life. I can't help but believe that many of these homegrown mass shooters are drawn by the idea of fame and the fact that the whole world will notice and hear them. I've seem some videos that look as if people are trying to bait the police into getting worked up and loosing it. Maybe I am seeing it wrong but I don't think so in all cases. Its like a kid will taunt a cop, act completely uncooperative and he's got that cell phone held up in the air, as if attempting to make a U-tube hit to play the poor victim in. We used to respect police when I was a kid and no one would have acted so rude or uncooperative like I see on these videos. I liked what that guy Dr. Piper wrote. I agree with the idea of self absorbed and narcissistic people who get their feelings hurt over any perceived challenge, whoever or whatever makes them feel bad is tagged with a name like 'bigot' or 'hater' with they themselves being the innocent victim. Many people seem to think freedom is equal to complete lack of restraint and that they live in a country where no one should not have any right to hold them to account for anything no matter what. This type of thing is completely out of hand. The laws are becoming more and more oppressive due to groups like M.A.D.D. (not to single them out, it just comes to mind) and 'The War on Drugs' that push the idea that more laws and penalties will solve these problems. Current events are always connected to the events preceding them. Problems like this need to be looked at as a progression of events from a historical perspective to make any sense. You can go back to the 1950's, 60's and 70's to mark the progression of events along with popularizing and accepting certain philosophical ideas. People now seem oblivious or uninterested in how these things connect and focus mainly on the results we have to live with because most people seem oblivious to history. Seems many only live in the present moment concerning any given crisis or personal experience as if history is irrelevant. The tendency is just get outraged or to come up with overly simplistic solutions like fixing 'the gun problem' or adding stiffer laws. Not that we need more guns mind you, I'm no NRA fan.

but dont get confused with the fact that it is named after archies girlfriend ... the link below says: Although many species in the genus are used in gardens (such as V. exalta, V. incana, V. gentianoides, V. longifolia, V. perfoliata, and V. spicata),[6] this species is generally seen as a weed[7] and has no known horticultural uses. its a weed in my garden .. regardless of the color of the flowers .... ken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_persica