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Comments (22)Turf Doc, I'll give you a brief rundown of the players on this thread bpgreen has a native prairie grass lawn in the Salt Lake City area. He is active on other forums but a lot of these players have been chased away by the forum's previous owner(s). TexasWeed was a sod farmer north of Dallas. You indicated on another post that you knew who he was. Now he's retired from that biz and is a greens keeper in Prescott, AZ. He's off all the forums. Andy has a poa plantation mixed with KBG and possibly fescue in New York somewhere. He reads soil tests on another forum and occasionally pops up here. dchall_san_antonio: I'm in and about San Antonio. I was in George West for a couple years and have been in Bandera, now, for about 18 months. My daughter's at Southwestern in Georgetown and my training hq is in Round Rock so don't be surprised if I look you up and stop in for a visit. compiler: We never did find out anything about him/her. It's important to know where the people live to give any good advice. I think the assumption was made that the OP had bermuda. Don't know why that was assumed, so I asked the questions. Sure, tissue sample testing would be nice. You really should correlate the plant uptake with the soil chemistry, but that's fairly impractical at this point. It took some considerable time and effort to locate Logan Labs in Ohio for high quality, reliable soil testing. Even the Texas Plant and Soil Lab did not make it through the ad hoc test of the testing labs, and those guys are geniuses with plants and soils. The $25 test from Logan Labs is considerably more and better than the old $35 test at TPSL back when K was alive. Now that K's passed on the new management has fragmented the tests so it would cost $60 or more to get what Logan Labs gives, and the TPSL explanations are less informative....See MoreHow does one identify Bermuda by type?
Comments (15)I grew up in a place that had a whole lot of old fashioned "Common" Bermuda grass all over the place... It definitely has a very different look than the "New" Bermudas out there. The "Old Stuff" isn't exactly the prettiest thing for a yard... Kinda sparse and really fluffy and stringy looking.. It reminds me of green, knotty hair laying on top of the ground... The old Common Bermuda really never impresses you as something that grows particularly well... until you try to get rid of it.... Then you find out your yard has been assimilated... and the subsoil is actually now a Giant sandy colored Carpet-like Mat of Bermuda grass rhizomes..... To your horror, you discover your entire "yard" was actually living 18" under ground all along... The stuff up on top is superfluous... kinda like the Fruiting body of a mushroom.... My yard has that distinct "Golf course grass" look to it as well... Probably the same stuff as you got. You wouldn't believe it was the same grass as that "Old Fashioned" Real Bermuda.... It does seem to respond quite nicely to high Nitrogen fertilizer, though.... I think you could spread Miracle Grow right out of the box and it wouldn't be too much nitrogen... Thanks John...See MoreFertilzing and the Bermuda Bible
Comments (10)Oh that weed. Always has a reason to spoil the fun. Actually he beat me to it. Cottonseed does have chemical issues. I'm not sure that really amounts to anything just like I'm not sure the salt in rabbit food amounts to anything. I do agree that you will not get the grass to do much more by adding organic fertilizer to the chemical. HOWEVER, adding organic is not a total wash out. It has been noticed that there can be a yo-yo effect from using chemical fertilizers for long periods of time. What happens is you get on a roll with chemical fertilizers and soon enough the grass is entirely dependent on them. If you miss an application by a few days the grass turns to crappp before you get a chance to fertilize. Then you add more fertilizer to get it back on track and possibly overdose it. Again, as has been said, it is hard to OD with fertilizer on bermuda. One mitigating factor in this yo-yo cycle seems to be the occasional use of compost. So since I'm am mister anti-compost, I would suggest you use organic fertilizer at least once per year along with your chemical regimen. This should keep your soil microbes from total exhaustion and boost them back from chemical heck. In your back yard, simply starting to water should bring something to life. I have successfully restored a bermuda patch that was about 8x20 feet into 98% St Augustine. I expect full reclamation in a month or so. The St Aug died out completely in 2011 (oopsie on the watering) and is now recovered. TW keeps telling me that I can never get all the way back to St Augustine, but I've done it repeatedly over the years....See MoreThanks to Texas Weed and the Bermuda Bible.....
Comments (11)Here's mine since I've been listening to TW. I can't mow under 1.5" because of the slope and level. It is darker green since using the Bonide iron that TW recommended. [URL=http://img243.imageshack.us/i/img00042a.jpg/][IMG]http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5958/img00042a.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img257.imageshack.us/i/img00044a.jpg/][IMG]http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6179/img00044a.jpg[/IMG][/URL]...See Morepkapeckopickldpepprz
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