Can oleander be put into dormancy or does it need to kept warm
jroot
18 years ago
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Need ideas for raised bed to replace overpowering oleanders
Comments (7)If you have a long narrow bed, think about removing just some of the oleanders, but not in a rigid 1-2-3-remove/1-2-3-remove formation. It'll be just as boring. Instead, think about how to incorporate some of them in "clumps" of one to three, removing the plants in between. For 40' I'd use two clumps and then landscape around them. If you have mature oleanders plus a fruit tree or two, your other plants will be living in mostly shade. I live in the Oakland hills but frankly, flax doesn't really like being shaded. Lantana will grow in bright shade, no problem. I like a mix of plants. 5' wide to me is pretty wide, many of my beds are extremely narrow! This is a composite shot of two long narrow beds - the first showing the "bones" in 2002 when we started landscaping and the second what it looks like April 2006. Right behind the tall white-variegated tree on the RH side, which is a variegated rhamnus (buckthorn), is a white oleander trained as a standard. I bought it from HDepot for $30 and it blooms more than half the year. I love them as trees because you can grow a lot of stuff in the "low" and "mid-level" height beneath them: Up here the big box garden centers have to compete with some really good nurseries so they try harder with good plant selections and prices. You're in a warmer zone than I am (I'm Sunset zone 17) so maybe bahia or some of the others who live in warmer areas can help more with plants. If I were you I'd concentrate on getting plants with foliage color and shape different than the oleanders. They have wonderful foliage themselves, but anything in excess is overwhelming, no matter how pretty! For instance, something like this Lavatera olba "Aureum" would contrast - about 4' tall and around, chartreuse foliage, bright purple flowers once a year. BTW, this is a nursery plant, not big-box store: Heucheras will live in partial shade and flower prettily once a year too. This is "Roseda": Maybe your zone is warm enough to keep this plant alive - mine wasn't, it's very tender. Strobilanthes "Persian Shield" on the left, spikey leaves of bearded iris (love their foliage and cool blue-green color, plus mine reflower twice a year) in-between, and a colorful hybrid pelargonium "Skies of Italy" on the right. The pelargoniums are often called geraniums by people, but that is botanically incorrect. See what I mean about shape and color of leaves? There's not a flower in sight but it's just as pretty. BTW, you can pick your lemons easily enough with a fruit-picker. Buy it at any big box garden center. It's a long pole (sometimes breaks down into two halves) with a stiff wire basket. The basket has a few raised "tines" on one half so you can slide it around the fruit, catch it between the tines, and tug it loose into the basket. Works very well. I'm surprised you get so little fruit from your Meyer. They are a heavy-bearing, vigorous hybrid that naturally grows as a bush. If you have a tree it has been grafted. I have one bush and two trees. This tree was planted in 2002 from a 5-gallon can, and the photo was taken in 2006: Citrus are very heavy feeders. I go through one of those big bags of citrus fertilizer annually with 3 lemons and 1 lime. I'm also a proponent of tossing what doesn't work, so regardless of what your mystery fruit is, I'd yank it out and toss it in the greens cart for something more productive!...See MoreAbout VFT dormancy
Comments (9)Hello Don555, Refrigerator dormancy has never really been considered the best wy to overwinter dormant plants, but it is an alternative if weather does not permit. A cold window is actually the better way to go as the plants receive a bit of cold weather, some light, and more open conditions than they would receive in the fridge. Trying to feed dormant Flytraps generally results in no reaction at all. They do not possess the energy to rapidly grow since they have shut down most of their growth for the winter, so growing their traps shut is also halted. If it does occur at all, it would be extremely slow and likely result in the death of the trap as it also would not have the energy to preserve and digest what was trapped....See MoreSeed dormancy related to foliage dormancy?
Comments (22)Even though a non-dormant daylily could keep growing in ideal conditions, any given single fan doesn't keep growing. Once it has matured and flowered it is replaced by a new scape from a new meristem? Once the fan has matured and flowered it will be replaced by a new fan from a new meristem and it will eventually produce a new scape. Would this mean non-dormant daylilies seem to multiply after the bloom season? Because non-dormant daylilies can grow whenever the conditions are suitable they can multiply whenever the original SAM has converted to a scape, even if the scape has not yet grown large enough to be visible to us. I have tried to upload a drawing of a fan from a dormant daylily showing two new buds. Since it is dormant it will not grow new leaves until the next spring so neither bud will start to grow until then. I am going to upload a drawing of a non-dormant daylily showing two new fans in the next message. Can any of this explain fans splitting? I have heard of this happening but I'm not sure I've ever really seen it. I'm sorry, don't know what is meant by "fans splitting". Maurice...See MoreIs dormancy needed?
Comments (22)About the three fruiting for year: This is true in general, and it is also true for the fruiting in winter of caprifig that keeps living the pollinator wasps. Instead of regarding fructifications of Dave, keep in mind that almost all the varieties that we are grown are all parthenocarpic (ripen without pollination), and each variety has one or two or three fructification, may be only be the first one, the first and second or only the second or only the second and third, and so on .. The third is rare, in selected varieties, for obvious meaning. Normally only one fruiting is important for the quality and quantity. As the fig tree native of the Mediterranean basin is obvious that feel equipped to overcome difficult times for hot and cold (the night in the Sahara, in winter, freezes). I think it might be hard to come to fruit with absolutely constant temperature all year round (as in Hawaii) and for that I am anxious to see the result in Malaysia. In fact this is not normal in its original climate. It is NOT true that deciduous plants must necessarily be intended for dormancy. There are many plants that are semi-deciduous, and deciduous if only is necessary, otherwise keep the leaves without problems. No problem for nature, in my land wild fig tree are on the mountains and after few years are burned by frosts, and every year are happy to regrow from the ground....See Morelovescritters
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