Thank you! This was one of the major reasons I wanted to identify the plants. I'll transplant it to a separate container. I'm not sure if I should keep the plant or not, since it's poisonous, but it's already on a raised area where animals can't get to it.

I just recently shovel pruned two roses I will not admit to having shovel pruned...because of the howls of outrage it will provoke from devotees...but they were awful in the garden here. (SdlM and Mme. Isaac Pereire) I got rid of them because the mildew was so bad that I never got an unspoilt flower in 3 years. (For those of you who've been here...I don't mean the Mme. Isaac that is climbing up the staircase...that one does well and stayed). There have been plants that I moved that did 180's for the better. We have a bed that faces south-east, and everything does better there, because ther is plenty of air circulation and a little bit of filtered afternoon shade. If I were in your shoes, I don't know what I'd do...because Franziska is a nicely shaped, nicely foliaged plant. But those "veggie centers" are not lovely, for sure. Sorry for rambling; I'd probably get rid of it. I am getting bolder about easing out plants that don't really contribute to the greater whole in some way. Jerome

Cincinnata I have olive trees drop out of the sky! Seriously, though, I have large trees(not olive) and often find olive pits on the ground. The birds eat what they want and drop the seed. They often sprout and produce vigorous seedlings in random locations. Later I can relocate them where I want them. I do not know what variety/varieties they are. There are many olive trees in this area. Maybe they can be identified when they mature and produce fruit. In summary, some olives grow easily from bare pits dropped on the ground. Happy gardening!

There are several people who want to swap tomato and pepper seeds specifically. This was posted this last fall: Tomato Swap habitat_gardener(z9 CA/Sunset15)September 22, 2015 See the 2015 Mostly Mystery 'Mater Mailing in the General Discussion forum on Tomatoville. You don't have to be a member to read the thread. Deadline is Nov. 10. -------------- You might check out the individuals on that thread and set up some good swaps. You have quite the list. If I sound bossy please ignore anything that sounds like attitude. Good luck! Heidi