Tanenashi Persimmon....Can anyone comment on the fruit?
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Comments (31)I missed this thread and probably could have been some use as I grow Asians in the humid northeast- which is more like your climate than the locations of most of the posters here. To me Korean Giant aka Olympic is best of Asians because it is the biggest and sweetest variety I've grown. University of Kentucky concurs in their research. I've never seen an Asian here bothered by fireblight, maybe because they start growth before warm weather. The consensus in this part of the country is that the Asians are easier to grow than Euros because they are not susceptible to scab or psyla, which can be devastating and more difficult to treat than most problems on any fruit here. I used to really like the taste of my KG's but after I had unlimited access to them I began to lose interest. I now far prefer my different Europeans because they are more interesting to me. This is all so subjective and people who sample my KG's usually just go gahgah Fireblight is something that can be spread from more susceptable trees to less. I have not seen research on this but my observations are conclusive as far as I'm concerned although I've only actually seen examples on 3 sites. On one site the quince there had fireblight for 2 or 3 seasons before it spread to europears. It went from susceptable pears (bosc most affected) the next season to most of the apples with Honeycrisp most affected. The strikes never went deep except in the Bosc and Quince and last year wasn't too bad. I've yet to loose a tree to fireblight after 2 decades of caring for thousands of trees in the northeast. This is probably because I don't manage any full dwarf apple trees which are more susceptable. In your climate you may get Jap type plums without much difficulty, or not. Scott has troubles in Maryland but I get unsprayed fruit often in S. NY and vacinity. Illinois Everbearing is usually touted as the best Mulberry for my climate. I have also tried Oscars, which I didn't care for. Silk Hope couldn't take our winter. Burnt Ridge has some IE available....See MorePersimmon.... Not really growing
Comments (56)I recently planted two fuyu peraimmon trees that were already 5 ft tall. One is doing well from the start. It has lots of new branches and leaves while the other one is just the opposite. It didn't sprout new branches or leaves. Ironically, the healthier of the two when I first got them is the one that's not doing well. They both did bare fruits, though. Now, the one that's not doing well has lost all of its fruits and the leaves turned red and yellow. The healthier one is also experiencing fruits falling off and some discoloration of the leaves, but there are a handful of fruits that remains. Hopefully, they will stay on to maturity. I do hope they will both survive. This post was edited by khanou on Sun, Jun 9, 13 at 18:04...See MoreCross-generic hybrids, chromosomal info.
Comments (68)I have tried several times to find information on hybrids between Asimina and Annona, but have found nothing. On the other hand, I have learned more about the pawpaw than I knew before. For one thing, there are several species of Asimina that fall into two groups: those with maroon flowers that smell "yeasty" or fermented, which are pollinated by beetles; and those with sweet scented white flowers. Apparently only A. triloba has fruit favored by humans. It should be possible to stir up some variability by crossing A. triloba with its relatives, but one would probably achieve useful results more quickly by crossing among selected cultivars. Here's a list: http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/pawpaw/cvsrc98.htm Further information on Asimina triloba and its hybrids: Bowden, WM Chromosome numbers in the Annonaceae. Am. Jour. Bot. 35: 337-381. 1948 Zimmerman, GA Hybrids of the American pawpaw. Jour. Hered. 32: 83-91. 1941 [Notes on A. triloba and interspecific hybrids.] On the other hand, breeding subtropical Annona for increased hardiness is more likely to result from crossing with species and races found in the mountains, rather than with Asimina. Annona purpurea has been recommended. "The success of anona culture in Florida through the production of hybrids by Simmonds, Wester, and others, the quickness with which the trees recover when injured by frost, and the delicious character of the fruits make the introduction of the soncoya (Annona purpurea, No. 43426) from Guatemala of peculiar interest. This tree, already in cultivation in Guatemala, produces fruit the size of a pummelo, with orange-colored flesh and an aroma resembling that of our native papaw (Asimina triloba). It can hardly fail to contribute valuable characters to the hybrid fruits which are evidently coming when the plant breeders really get to work in a comprehensive way on the genus Annona." Years ago I read of relatively hardy papayas (Carica spp.) found in mountainous regions. Many species from the Andes and other mountains are much hardier than their low-altitude relatives. E.g., the Rhodophialas are hardier than the closely allied Hippeastrums; and Hippeastrum vittatum (Andean) is hardier than H. calyptratum (lowland jungles). Likewise, the "European" or "Persian" peach (descended from species native to Chinese mountains) is hardier than the Peen-To and Honey types that originated in the warmer valleys. Karl...See MoreFuyu Persimmon
Comments (19)I found a company that looks interesting. It is "Useful Plants Nursery" in Black Mtn, NC. It is in the "Earthhaven Ecovillage". Is anyone familiar with them? I could not find any info on Dave's Garden or by doing a general google search. Anyway, they have a Persimmon called "Hana Fuyu". It is a dwarf (a plus for me) and they claim it ripens earlier that Fuyu. They say it has a wonderful flavor. It's 2 1/2 hrs from Charlotte. That would be a nice weekend drive. They also deliver. I'm not sure of the cost. Black Mtn has colder winters than Charlotte, so if my tree did die over the winter, this may be a good choice for me. Edible Landscaping has some varieties that sound good, but it's a 5 hour drive and the shipping is expensive. At Useful Plants, a 5 gallon costs $39. I think that sounds pretty good....See Moregirlbug2
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