Low-e Windows Effect on Plants
peter_poet
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Comments (5)I am not a plant-guy and I admit that this is mostly guess work...so if I say anything grossly incorrect about plant growth I hope someone who knows better will correct me! ' Plants like to use the red and the blue of the visible light section of the electromagnetic spectrum...opposite ends of the spectrum. The middle part of the spectrum, the softer yellows and the like, have very little effect on plant growth or overall health. Contrary to a somewhat widely held opinion, plants do not generally like the UV spectrum. There is something of a misconception that plants thrive in UV light...this is not true, most (if not virtually all)plants do very well in the total absence of UV light. If someone wants to test this, place a plant ina dark room or closet with only a UV light as company. Your plant will die. LowE coatings are designed to block radiation in the UV (ultraviolet) and IR (infrared) parts of the spectrum...like red and blue, the opposite ends of visible light. Since, as Bry84 pointed out, not all LowE coatings are exactly the same, I would suspect that if it was the LowE coating that affected the plants, then it was possibly a LowE that was designed to cover "deeper" into the visible light part of the spectrum and that it may have caused light loss in the blue or red light range - or both. Possibly a high tint LowE coating could have caused problems due to blocking the colors plants need to thrive. There have been a number of studies concerning plant growth and LowE windows, and I have yet to find a single study that proves LowE coatings affect plant growth. I can find several that state that LowE coatings have no effect on plant growth...but, there is some anecdotal evidence - as earthbru noted - that suggests at least some correlation between plant growth and LowE windows. Although I would consider another cause besides the windows, as Bry84 said, I would also assume that some coatings may have more effect than others....See MoreIdentifying low-e windows
Comments (8)here is a quick way to see if your windows have a low e coating.. take a cigarette lighter & light it. hold it up next to the glass. if the flame is the same color @ the lighter, the reflection in the first pane of glass, and the second pane of glass, it is clear glass. if the flame is more yellow than orange on one of the reflective panes, you have a low e tint. (this was my test before the purchase of a light meter to actually measure the amt of light entering) cold climates should have a low e coating on the outer of the inside pane hot climates should have the low e coating on the inside of the outer pane. cold climate location is to reflect heat back into the house, hot climate location to reflect heat out of house. some glass mfgs put window glass composition on the glass on the lower corner.. hope this helps.....See Morenormal to have ice on inside of new low-e windows, very cold weather?
Comments (13)Dew point is defined as saturation vapor density or 100% relative humidity. Dew point is the transition temperature between evaporation and condensation. Condensation occurs on windows because the temperature of the glass is below the dew point temperature of the air in the home resulting in moisture on the glass surface. There are two ways to lower relative humidity in a home – increase the air temperature or decrease the moisture content of the air. Lowering the relative humidity may solve the problem or it may have little to no effect – depending on how the RH is lowered. Increasing air temperature will lower relative humidity but it does nothing to affect the dew point temperature. Dew point is all about the amount of water vapor in the air and is not affected by air temperature. At any moisture level, higher temperature equals lower RH and lower temperature equals higher RH. Lowering RH by increasing air temperature may not affect condensation on window surfaces unless the rise in air temperature also results in a corresponding rise in glass temperature to a level above the dew point. Lowering RH by lowering the amount of water vapor or moisture in the air will lower the dew point. Once again, if the dew point temperature drops below the surface temperature of the glass it will affect condensation formation on the glass surface. Moisture level in the air is most easily expressed in grams per cubic meter (versus imperial version of fluid ounces per cubic foot). In addition, while this is nice for metric-speaking folks, it may be less so for non-metric folks. Since the metric version is much easier on the calculator than the English version, and in the interest of making this stuff easier to understand for all of us non-metric types, I am going to use grams per cubic meter, but also Fahrenheit rather than Celsius for a couple of quick example calculations. Consider two virtually identical homes located right next door to one another. In this scenario, home number 1 has an internal relative humidity reading of 40% at 65°F, and home number 2 has an internal relative humidity reading of 29% at 75°F. Both homes have 6.25 g/m³ moisture in the air inside the home, irrespective of the RH differences between the homes. Because they have the same moisture level, the dew point in both homes is 38°F. At dew point, or 38°F, relative humidity is at 100%. Above this temperature, moisture evaporates, and below this temperature, moisture condenses. While the relative humidity in the second home is much lower than is the relative humidity in the first; if the surface temperature of the glass in either home is 38° or lower those windows are likely to have surface condensation regardless of the substantially lower RH reading in the second home. If glass surface temperature of the windows is 40° – only a couple of degrees warmer condensation becomes much less likely. If glass temperature is below 32°F then that moisture is going to form frost or ice on the surface of the window. In order to stop condensation from forming on the surface of a window you have to: (a) lower the dew point temperature of the air to a level below the temperature of the window surface, or (b) you have to warm up the window surface to a temperature above the dew point temperature of the air, or (c) a combination of both. I am not a huge fan of casement windows for a couple of reasons, but primarily it’s because the glass surface sits well proud of the house exterior wall when installed. The best way to avoid window condensation is warm glass, and the best way to avoid warm glass is to hang the glass package a couple of inches past the exterior wall when it’s really cold outside. You have to either warm the glass somehow or else you have to lower the moisture level in your home. Judging by the amount of ice that you have on those windows, that glass is cold, really cold and warming the glass is probably your better option. Looking at the picture of the window next to the popcorn machine, it might take a small fan or even a small portable space heater near the window to give it that extra warmth on the extra cold days to avoid condensation and ice build-up....See MoreWindow Installations - low E2 vs. E3
Comments (16)Another related question: Is it possible to acquire this same product on my own and negotiate maybe lower labor costs with another vendor? For example, we are telling our community they must use this vendor. Question: Is it possible that another window installer could procure the identical windows, in all dimensions and specifications, form the manufacturer? And, if so, is it possible that the labor costs could be different than what has been quoted? I am just trying to make sure we are able to answer all of the questions and determine if this particular window installer has exclusivity over this product....See Moretapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
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