Hi Scottfsmith

You wrote "There are countless sources of variety descriptions. Probably the most complete modern book I have seen is Okie's book, "Handbook of Peach and Nectarine Varieties". It is pretty hard to find and I have never seen it on the Internet, but it describes all of the modern varieties available in the US." I think i just found this book on internet. Book name is "Handbook of peach and nectarine varieties: performance in the southeastern United States and index of names." It was from 1998 and describes peach varieties but there was also some other information for example fruit form, flowers showy or nonshowy (Or small flower) and chilling information. I think i might give you address so you can read it, if someone want to look at it (I think someone probably is interested to look at it because i saw there was many interested people in mine peach book message). Yes others can too read it not just Scottfsmith, but he mentioned it first so i write this message to him (It looks like he might have not read it as he says it is hard book to find and have not found it on internet).

I think this completely book is internet and can be read online. This book have 800 pages and describes over 700 peach varieties according to this book. This book is divided to 2 parts and those parts are put on many pages, so you need to load many pages to read this book and this means i have to give you many internet addresses so you can read all pages of this book. Part 1 has Peach varieties, using part 1 instructions, contents and index varieties. Part 2 has using part 2 and index of names. End of the book is appendices, references and index to varities in part 1. This book has zoom in and zoom out options. Also note there is link View as pdf which probably show this book pdf version (I clicked it but on this computer it did not load.) Now let's start to look at book.

This is part 1 of the book and this page have title page, contents and using part 1 on it and has 18 pages 18 (1-18 Pages). This page explains fruit charasterics, flowers show or non showy, chilling hours. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140001.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140001.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140001.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page&MaximumPages=-1&ZyEntry=2

Then next page starts peach variety describtions (Part 1 from AC Harflame to Flordagrande ) pages 19-118. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140024.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140024.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140024.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

part 1 (Flordaguard to Nectacrest) and have pages 119-218. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140124.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140124.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140124.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

Part 1 ( Nectaheart to Sunbob) and pages 219-318. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140224.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140224.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140224.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

Part 1 ( Sunbright to Zorrito) and pages from 319-372. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140324.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140324.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140324.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

Here starts part 2 of the book. This is using the part 2 pages and has pages 373-379. This page gives instructions to use this part of the book. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140378.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140378.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140378.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

This page is part 2 (Index of names 1 of 4) and have pages 380-479 . Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140385.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140385.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140385.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

This page is part 2 (Index of names 2 of 4) and have pages 480-579. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140485.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140485.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140485.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

This page is part 2 (Index of names 3 of 4) and have pages 580-679. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140585.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140585.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140585.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

This page is part 2 ( Index of names 4 of 4) and have pages 680-730. Here is the link :

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140685.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140685.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140685.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

This page is appendice which have Elberta peach variety ripening dates for different location, Breeders, number of trees planted by region, index peach varieties from part 1 and peach varieties catogorized by chilling requirement, flesh color and ripening date. This appendice have pages 731-808.

http://naldr.nal.usda.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/ah7140736.xml?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=National%20Agricultural%20Library%20Digital%20Repository&Index=AH%7CAH2%7CAIB%7CBIC%7CBooks%7CCirc%7CERS%7CFB%7CFVMNR%7CHGB%7CJAR%7CLFLT%7CMP%7CNFC%7CROS%7CRural%7CTB%7CTB1%7CTB2%7CUSDA%5FDiv%5FBulletin%7CWPC%7CYOA1%7CYOA2&Docs=&Query=peach%20varieties&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=Year%5E%3E%3D1998%3A%3C%3D1998&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&UseQField=Year&IntQFieldOp=1&ExtQFieldOp=1&XmlQuery=&Doc=%3Cdocument%20name%3D%22ah7140736.xml%22%20path%3D%22%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5C%22%20index%3D%22AH2%22%2F%3E&File=%5C%5CNALDR%5CDIGITAL%5CZYFILES%5CINDEXDATA%5CAH2%5CXML%5C2007%5C00000000%5Cah7140736.xml&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=&SortMethod=h%7C-&MaximumDocuments=20&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r85g16/r85g16/x150y150g16/i500&Display=hpfrw&DefSeekPage=f&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page

Hopefully somebody likes to look it and likes that i found that book on internet and gave you internet addresses to this book. Now you can read this book, if you do not have it. Hopefully somebody found this book useful in other words.