firstandgoal, Thanks for the info. That sounds reasonable to me. I hit a bit of the lawn last night before dark - hopefully it will rain today/tonight at get the rest wetted down enough, or I'll be back out there. And thanks for confirming that I got it down in time. I missed last year and was a little worried I was late for THIS year, as I saw some forsythia blooms around town.

If you do not plan to overseed, I would go with the Lesco 0-0-7 with Stonewall (prodiamine). It is even longer lasting than Dimension. with the heavier application rate listed on the back, you can get 6months of coverage. Stock up at a Lesco branch near you...poa annua will require several years of coverage.

2nd the mulch & no herbicide cut seed heads often creative weed control ideas? more mulch more plants closely spaced (no soil or mulch is visible this time of year if planted closely be creative with what works as mulch for you to cover all soil esp. during the growing season some ideas to try -straw, a bale goes a long way (beware if fresh will be a bit slippery if thickly spread) -hay sweepings from the feed store (they put in a dumpster usually & let you remove free when asked. I wear a mask, gloves, & coveralls or a large jacket. I prefer to bring my my own D handle garden fork to remove it & put in garbage cans or bags. I clean up after I'm done, so it isn't an inconvenience to them. I've not been refused as long as they have a supply. Also, haven't had a big weed problem from using it mostly as a bottom layer, so cover if you're concerned about seeds. -dried grass clippings (herbicide free) as well or mown over perennial waste from cutting back after blooming, trimming, etc. (compost seed heads separately unless you want seedlings) -conifer needles (cedar is prolific in dropping dead needles, pines are drop a lot & slow to decompose) -used coffee grounds (free from St*rbucks & better results if you call ahead) -newspaper overlapping 10 sheets as a layer & flat with a light layer of other mulch to cover -dried leaves (from maple saplings or other deciduous hedge material. I pull backward up the stem to remove maple leaves several times a growing season on big leaf maples we've cut down but stumps keep sprouting) -if larger areas like pathways use cardboard, burlap, or upturned carpet. Might not need to top it, but can add wood chips if you have them. Possibly you know someone with the conifers who would appreciate you raking & cleaning up the area underneath the trees. Likewise about the grass clippings. With the dry weather now the grass should dry quickly on a tarp. I spread some lightly today without drying them 1st around the zucchini plants, then later around garden edges, but it should dry just fine by tomorrow. Don't spread thick. I'll stir it a bit and keep an eye on it. I just didn't want to bother with a tarp today and was doing 3 loads from the meadow.

Help... I've been treating the dozens of trumpet vine spouts that come up all over my yard as though they were weeds... It seems to be harming the mother vine ....and now I'm being sued for maliciously harming her plant. It's true, I'm using "remedy" which is a strong herbicide...and I apply it a few inches down into the soil..I try to confine the herbicide to the trumpet vine root by using plastic baggies... HELP! What do you all think?