It is great you are keeping your garden green with natives. Many of the native plants are protected here in Michigan--no picking Loosestrifes, Queen Anne's Lace, and we have a shortage of Joe Pye Eye Weed and violas--so, I embrace all my natives that I can! Keep up the good work--and get your hands in the soil--somehow that is how I find my solace to dealing with stress (especially between the books, if you know what I mean). Good luck, Pam! If you see something on my small (newly started garden) and I am a newbe on the forum, e-mail me at pconnole@aol.com and let me know--more than likely SABSE will work just fine with some of the seeds.

I'm sorry Sue. I thought you meant that you wanted the link to the review page, D'OH. There is a reason I turned off my email. There were several instances of inappropriate emails, two cyber stocking and then many many requests for free seeds. So I turned off my email. I am willing to leave it on only for a short time to do some trades and then off it goes again. 99% of you are all the most wonderful people, but for some reason, I am a 1% magnet :)

I would also want it to compete with the Norway maple to slow its growth ===>>> yeah ... good luck with that ... lol ... if the most invasive weed on earth ..... grass ... wont grow under a norway.. good luck with anything else ... if we are to presume that a tree is twice as large underground.. as above... how are a couple little vines going to slow it down ... regardless ... give it a try ... if you can provide enough water for the vine.. in excess of what the tree will steal ... and the vine actually can become established and thrive.. it might be a really cool affect ... i would recommend not amending the soil .... and never watering the vine alone.. bare rooting it.. and planting in only in the soil removed in digging the hole ... you might get it going.. but any amendment .. fertilizer.. or water specific.. will encourage the maple to come fill the hole you dug with feeder roots.. and in the long run.. strangle the plant .... i know this for a fact from growing some odd 1500 hosta under a myriad of trees ... maples .. among others ... are super competitors .... and .. given time.. will take everything that other plants might need ... and norway is their king ... good luck ken ps: even if you decided to increase your odds by trying to grow the vine in a 20 gallon pot.. under the tree.. on top of the native soil .... within a few years.. the roots of the tree will fill the pot.. these darn things arent even limited to mother earth .... maybe they are aliens ...

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