I believe the process time is about 15-20 minutes for pints, provided they were filled with the boiling jelly. Most BWB processing or even slightly over processing in a water bath will not usually 'break' the pectins' abilty to set. For a no pectin apple jelly however, I believe it would be OK, due to the natural pectin. Here, I use a bit of nutmeg and ginger along with cinnamon in my apple pie filling and jam. Another spice thats great with apples is ground cardamom. The low/no sugar pectins are very sensitive to overcooking, but that is not the case with the Pomona product. Here, most of my canning jars are regular mouth, as its easier to screw on and off the rings with my arthritic hands. I don't usually use allspice in an apple recipe, but that taste is fine with many other things.

Katrina, I'm including a link from the National Center for Home Food Preparation which addresses this matter. You should be just fine. As for recipes, please check out Your Greatest Hit Recipes for Leesa - The Condensed Version. Many of the best recipes that we share and make over and over again are listed there. I'm certain you'll find something. Good luck, Kathy Here is a link that might be useful: NCHFP - Canning for Special diets

Seysonn, You said ”There you have it: This is ofter a characteristic with black tomatoes( Or some of them) A Texas University plant pathologist has also ruled out any disease and has mentioned as Physiological in nature. Whatever it is, it does not do any harm.” You live in Washington and you had your plants checked out by a Texas University plant pathologist? (scoffs) I find that difficult to believe. I debated for a long time on whether or not to respond to this post, and previously to some of your other posts. I hate to come down hard on anyone, which is why I did not respond to previous posts that I took exception with. We aren’t a clique on this forum, otherwise we would have blown you out of the water some time ago. But my debate with myself is over and I am responding to this one. My job for nearly eight years, dealt with researching questions and providing data to back up the answers, which is why when I provide answers on GardenWeb, I usually provide a link to corroborating information (and you complained about my linking information!) Believe me, I have done some comprehensive searches, and I can find NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that says rolled leaves are characteristic of black tomatoes. Nothing anecdotal and more importantly nothing credible or scientific. Additionally, I have grown more than a dozen black varieties and usually between two and four plants of each variety at a time, and I’ve repeated several of them. Except when I had watering issues, or other environmental stress factors, they did not have rolling leaves. When they did, I also had red, pink, yellow, orange and white varieties, both potato leaf and regular leaf that had rolled leaves. I’ve probably grown about 300 varieties of tomatoes in the last 20 years, and been on GardenWeb for 10 years, Carolyn has grown more than 10 times the number of varieties that I have, and neither of us find that black tomatoes characteristically have curled leaves any more than any other variety. Do you consider that you-tube videographer to be an authority on tomatoes, especially heirloom and open pollinated tomatoes? I for one, DO NOT. He makes some erroneous statements about Black Krim in his "profile" of the variety: “It’s an heirloom tomato from the isle of Krim on the black sea which is by the Ukraine…” and "...rumored to have come into the United States in the 1900s and it was brought over here by soldiers..." Admittedly, he may have had the erroneous information given to him, but even a simple internet search would pull up the correct information, and one would think if one were going to put a video profile of a tomato on the internet, that one ought to do a little fact checking first…. Black Krim is a Ukrainian heirloom from the Crimean region of Black Sea (Ukraine). It was first offered in the SSE 1990 Yearbook by Lars Olov Rosenstrom of Bromma, Sweden. BTW, that region of Crimea, a part of the Ukraine, is a peninsula, not an island. The Black Krim in his video is in a five gallon bucket and in response to a comment with a question, he states that ”Yep plant leaves curl for various reasons. It isn't something to worry about if you are sticking with a good watering and feeding routing. Container tomatoes curl, in my opinion, more then [sic] earth planted tomatoes. In any cause [sic] it is just there [sic] response to environmental factors.” So, even the videographer says curled leaves are a response to environmental conditions, in other words his plant is stressed. He has others videos that are titled “Tomato Profile: The 'Brandywine's Red & Suddath's Strain' Heirloom Tomatoes: The Rusted Garden 2011”, and “Spank your TOMATOES for bigger harvests! Plus pruning and using apple juice for setting blossoms.” I tend not to trust anyone as a tomato authority who spells Sudduth’s wrong. (He pronounces it soo-dooths in spite of how he spells it.) Oh yeah, he adds lime to his planting hole in the ground to prevent BER (Blossom End Rot). I suspect he might put tums and eggshells in his 5 gallon buckets too. He considers bagged sand to be “sterile”, (it is not) but he probably means free of tomato diseases. When the plant (again, one in the ground) has fruit on it, he mixes organic pelleted lime into a gallon of water to “protect it from getting blossom end rot.” We know from many previous discussions (and scientific data that backs it up), that lack of calcium in the soil is not the cause of BER. Unfortunately, he is promulgating some outdated and erroneous information as truth, re: the lime and apple juice. I’ve only seen one other anecdotal instance of someone stating that spraying apple juice on blossoms helps them set fruit, and several others who say they tried it and it does not work, and even some that stated they had increased blossom drop when using an apple juice spray. What it boils down to seysonn, is that I think you tend to post just to be posting something, you can’t seem to stand not being the first to respond to a post whether it is pertinent to the issue at hand or not, and you tend to be negative or contradictive, and have even been pretty snippy or downright rude to some knowledgeable people who were trying to be helpful. Carolyn is right, you are contrary. My 78 year old mom always says, “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything.” (and I am breaking her rule now. Sorry Mama, but I think this needs to be said as enough is enough.) Concerning graffiti Papa said “Fools names and fools faces will be found in public places.” I think some of your comments can be equated to forum graffiti. Stepping down off my soapbox now. My apologies to gardengal13 for the hijack of her thread. Betsy Edited to apologize to gardengal13 This post was edited by bets on Sat, Aug 24, 13 at 0:47

Hi hippiezep (11), The plant is so pretty. I thought from pictures I've seen that Carmen is red and sometimes red with some white? I sent you a message where you posted May 3, 2015, that you have seeds (red ones ). Please let me know if you still do I would like some if possible, my email is in my profile. Thank you, yolie