I am dearly interested in all your seeds except the salsa mix. lol lol however I dont have any plants yet.... I do have an iris (pink)....... I have some anemone & windflower bulbs... Shawn

kek, Glad to hear that you also ordered seeds from Prairie Moon. I think the Karner Blue needs some people pulling for it. I hate to see creaturs lose their habitats and it upsets me that we keep losing species...there are just so many people that I think it's pretty inevitable unless we somehow control the people population. It only makes sense that the more people there are the more land that will be dug up and paved over for more houses, malls, factories, stores, and other businesses. So nature ends up losing more and more. :( Anyway...I'd really be hopeful about getting the Karner Blue if I were you and had a sanctuary that close to me. I know, it's not like it's next door but still, I think 10 miles is pretty close and I would certainly be optimistic about getting them there someday. I would think that they're bound to find a person who is in the area, huh? I, on the other hand, am probably at least 100 miles from the nearest ones in my state, but I will still plant the lupines and cross my fingers. It's not like nothing else will use the lupines, and I think they'll be real pretty. I suppose I stand a chance of getting Karner Blues even if it is a kind of remote chance. After all, it's not like I'm planting a Eucalyptus tree to attract a koala bear. :-D About your garden design...I think that should turn out looking great and I love that color combination. I was thinking about getting a trumpet vine sometime because I'm also interested in hummingbirds. I got Cardinal Flower seeds and foxglove seeds just recently and winter sowed them and I hope that the hummingbirds will like them. Some people talk about getting a dozen or more hummingbirds, but I only ever see three here, probably the mom, the dad, and the baby. Brandy, Sorry for the misunderstanding. I went back and read it again and yeah, now it makes sense to me what you said and that you mean the KB Butterfly Garden that they're offering. lol I can be a dee dee dee sometimes. Ha. Anyway, yeah, I agree with you and looked and can't afford it either and that's why I bought a pack of lupine seeds and will plant those outside once April comes around. With these low temps we're having (right now it's 14 deg. here), I'm starting to wonder if spring will ever get here. Brrr, I can hardly stand to be outside for more than a couple minutes and that's it. Yes, you are cheating by getting plants. That's not allowed! ;-) I'm curious now if I'll have any luck growing the lupines since you said you had trouble with starting them from seed. I did try to start other lupines here last year and I didn't have any luck with them. I might end up buying some plants too if I can't start any either from seed. I wish I'd have the bed ready for the wild lupines but I don't. If it would be, I'd have considered sowing the seeds directly into the ground. Several people have said that they're fussy when it comes to being transplanted. I did wintersow my wild lupines just recently but they're in a container and will still have to be transplanted so I'll kind of be on pins and needles wondering if they'll "take". I will be extra careful transplanting them. I hope you have good luck with your plants. Oh, I wish I wouldn't have to wait until next year to see what mine will look like (assuming they'll grow this year). Uh oh, I bought sweet pea seeds and now am wondering if I'm going to have a problem with them taking over. Are they an invasive plant? Maybe I should have done more studying up on all of these plants that I'm going to have here. One that has me a little concerned in the Passiflora incarnata.

i checked that link ais posted more and it says the l. perennis are indigenous to this county (wake). so, they should grow here. still no info on soil preferences, though i'd guess lean and sandy more than clay based. then i could only find one source of semi- affordable seed. everyone else sold it by the 1/4 pound and it's expensive- guess it's used as a wildflower more than anything. i would love to try it out if anyone found a good source. i have about 1/2 of a packet left of 'wild' lupines i got from pinetree that are the originals that the russels were bred from (they're not l. perennis). that's what i figured you were talking about earlier, and since the russels only do so-so, i figured they'd be about the same. they did squat last year. i'll soak them and scatter them out this year again to see if they do anything. with the lack of rain i'm not very optimistic, though. i may try a few as container winter sown, but since they dislike being transplanted, i'm a little leery.

Glenda, I too had larkspurs for years and then all of a sudden, I didn't. It was that two-year drought and abnormally high temps all year round that we had that did mine in. I lost 98% of my herb garden during that time, too. So, this year, I reseeded some in January. They sat there and sat there and didn't come up. I just about decided the seed was bad and was going to reseed the beds when they came up. (they must have heard me saying that). Actually, their seed bed was too dry, so I started watering them every day and THAT was when they finally germinated. I have a lot of seedlings now in two locations. Happy me! So, we shall see if I can get them going all over the yard again like I had before. So, here's my suggestion: Like annual poppies, Larkspurs don't transplant well at all. I would just seed them out in the garden where you want them to grow. Water them daily until they come up. They need a lot of moisture to germinate and sprout, then they aren't so fussy and will do fine with just normal amounts of rain or watering. OBTW, I think a few of the KMOTGG finally came up! I don't know what else those seedlings could be, so am hopeful. Only spotted three two days ago. The tiny stems were cerise colored. How pretty. Will this snow hurt them? I hope not. ~Annie