Thanks all, I am looking to fill in basically the areas that are on the slopes, that currently grass is growing into as a place holder until I can get the beds set up. See bottom picture, anything shaded is what will have Perennials. I am starting to collect Milk Jugs now. What is the best time to start, before the first frost or after? I know I'm going to have some deer and rabbit pressure, but I have neighbors with perennials, and I'm hoping "natives" will be a little bit more resistant. You can see the progress since last November, I've pulled out most of the old shrubs and planted a new lawn, put in sprinklers, and next spring we'll put in perennial beds and a few raised beds as well. http://18buckinghamplace.com/ width="800" height="600">

Hi Amazin , sorry I'm new at this web stuff ( mostly just a lurker) and couldn't find were I wrote to you the 1st time ... me feel so dumb with this puter stuff... but yes I have 9 begonias and 6 are from Logee's, some are named and other are ( pass a along's ) ..... Named ones= Begonia " Richardsiana" B." Snow Capped " B. "Tea Rose" B. "Hot Tamale" B. "Good and Plenty " B, "Tiny Gem " B. " Silver Queen " The Richardsiana has in pass week took a big flop , and so not sure whats up with it , taken it back into house , hope it was just heat stroking from 100 + daze we have been in for pass couple of weeks here in nastyville , so not sure about it. Two other's unknown named ones but pretty just the same and last one I think mite be B. " Sophia Cecile " not sure. I see you have " My Special Angel " have been looking at it in the catalogs . sorry I'm so long winded.... but sure there must be something in your long list that we can work with . P.s. I wont make it to any plant swap so..... not sure how we would do this if we've a mind to ???? But thanks for your time and effort if thats the only way .

Although they're not native to me I grow a little pot filled with hosta, fern, and blue geranium in full shade. It started blooming a month ago and looks lovely in that dark corner. I also grow them under blackberry with varegated Solomon's seal. Those only get winter sun so no flowers. But the leaves are evergreen here so its green in the winter when the berries and Solomon are gone. These geranium would grow under your ferns as they don't get tall so I think a spot where you can enjoy them is best.

I planted black cohosh this year. It didnt bloom but it didnt die either so thats a start That book will go over how to mix them all together and in what proportions and layers to avoid creating a muddled mess. I have or tried to grow a bunch of your plants. Something in my soil does not agree with Monarda, I dumped 4 packs of seed on one spot this spring and planted one near that, and none of them sprouted and the planted one turned black from the bottom up and died within a week. The penstemon, Agastache, achillea and baptisia nearby are all doing fine, although the Liatris suffered a similar fate after doing well for a while. I planted leadplant 2 years ago which is still hilariously small, but I hope they are just building roots, they didnt seem to surface until july of this year. Ohio spiderwort is a nice plant. Flowers are on the small side and the seed/flower stalks got heavy and flopped but those plants have bloomed every single day since May. My hoary mountain mint attracted a frightening amount of bees, wasps, and similar looking creatures. They have Dicentra eximia for sale at a land preserve here, if interested. Id be interested in the white snakeroot, tall bellflower, and smooth blue aster