pergola/arbor metal inserts
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Comments (5)Is there a metal recycler or scrap yard near you? The recycling company where I take cans and bottles buy all scrap metals. I've bought things there. This one sells metal for a little more than they pay for it, by the pound. I saw a bunch of wrought iron fencing there yesterday but don't need it yet. Some people here use freecycle or Craigslist. You can post what you're looking for there and might get lucky. Read Susie's post on the conversation side about getting things on Freecycle (Link below). Tell everyone you know what you're looking for. Someone may have it laying around and just give it to you. Try Google images. Whatever materials you're looking for, I know someone is throwing it away right now. Linda Here is a link that might be useful: Susie Rose's Good Advice...See MorePergola / arbor : how to prevent rot?
Comments (5)Hi, I built a Kiwi vine Pergola 2 years ago. I used Cedar for the posts, and heavy metal stirrups in 10" diameter x 2' deep concrete forms (Sonotubes) set in the ground. The stirrup bases set about an inch above the concrete forms so that the posts dry faster and don't sit in pooled water. I used a water-based semi-transparent stain (from Wolman's) on the Cedar before I put it together so that all the sides of the wood were covered. As the other poster noted, it is difficult to stain a Pergola once the vines are established. I am attaching some photos of my finished Pergola. Doug Fir is definitely less expensive than Cedar or PT pine. And it might hold up just as long if kept stained (to protect from rain, sun, wind) and not in direct ground contact (where wood eaters will easily get to it). After 4-5 years though, the stain will be wearing off and you might want to figure out how to recoat the upper grid where the vines are likely to be. The posts should be easy enough to recoat though. Or you could use all-PVC plastic lumber...which never rots and never needs staining, but does cost a tiny fortune :)....See Morearbor anchor?
Comments (15)You might be able to use the method on the link I'm posting, lots of photos detailing it all if you scroll down, might do what he did on 2 sides of each 4X4. He has his suspended above the ground a bit to avoid rot but I'd probably just let mine be touching the ground, mine was down in a bit before it fell or was pushed over supposed to be anchored in cement but guy missed a couple of the footings, and the straplike "anchors" with one hole for a screw to the wood (mine are 2X2) were too flimsy for a structure that large, metal was pretty strong. I haven't decided how to anchor mine if I have it put up again, don't want concrete footings and want the old ones jackhammered out before we start over, not a pleasant prospect, but I want rid of them. I didn't bother to get a permit, usually do get one if I know it's required, just didn't think about it. There is another method somebody taught me on my photo forum, but that was for one 4X4 post with a cedar birdfeeder on top of it. I don't know if it would work for 4 4X4's and a heavy arbor or if you would even want to consider it. The photo forum guy built what I dub a "baffle box" and sent me the schematic for it, had the cedar boards cut at the hardware store, and the repair shop drilled about 2 holes each end, hope you can figure out where they should be, and secured it with screws. I can't drill straight into ends of boards or I would have done it. I didn't allow enough for the width of the boards when I had the cedar lumber cut, but it works anyway. It is about 1' tall. Should be a little more than 4" on the inside to allow for expansion and shrinkage, and the pieces that stick out are supposed to be about 1-1/2 inches. Maybe I took the post with the boards so the guy in the shop could figure out if it was going to slide in it, can't remember all of it now. It's sunk into the ground 16", had a guy do that for me. Sometimes it has a little give to it and sometimes it's snug, but has stayed plumb, been in the ground for at least 3 years now, don't know how long it will last as it wasn't treated lumber, and we didn't put anything on it. But it was cedar. Hope you can forgive the drawing which is not to scale and ended up having to do over evidently because I didn't check the right specs for the line tool in Photoshop. You should be able to visualize the side view. Here is a link that might be useful: Anchoring a cedar obelisk on the OGR forum...See MoreArbor #2 Done! Done! Done! (almost)
Comments (3)Yep, a pre-midlife crisis project. Something I've wanted to do for 10 years now. My plans? Well, let's just say, I've obsessed....um, er...thought about the design for the last 5! So, yes, my design...LOL...See Morekacy27
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