Hi Glenn, Not arguing with the results of that thread at all, I think we could put something together here that could help backyard and orchard growers make better decisions about apple varieties based on a few more required criteria. Especially with an indicated USDA zone. Apple varieties have the tendency to grow best under certain conditions. I think you'll see the cream rise to the top again, just with more information. I know you came up with the point system, but that may be unfair to certain varieties since its such a small sample of people's opinions. Aim here is, simply, this is what grows best where I am, and is a favorite of others with a reliability factor involved.

not related to this site at all. the info that missouri provides is incredible

Thank you thank you. I have printed your directions and will try them later. I have to run out to play tour guide soon.

You did an amazing job - I think most pool builders could learn a thing or two from what you have accomplished here. As someone who has plumbed hundreds of pools with similar configurations I just want to provide you with a little bit of insight into your underground plumbing chase. While it is clear that you took a ton of care to have a clean raceway to run the lines it, you made a few key errors that anyone looking to reproduce your results should avoid. In the areas where you have needed to raise one pipe over another you used double 45's to create a saddle. While this is the right choice from a system efficiency and friction loss standpoint, having underground 45's like that can be a problem. You will not be able to sufficiently compact under the saddle and as a result the top pipe will sink over time as the ground settles. Even a tiny movement of the pipe with rigid lines can cause a failure - and the 45 saddle is a weak point for a failure. As much as having back to back 90 fittings is bad, they are able to take the compression of ground movement better than an unsupported 45. Again, amazing job...just want to lend some experience. One more thing worth mentioning is that when you have a pipe penetration through the shell it can be a good idea to 90 down immediately. If the rigid pipe comes straight out, again it has to endure the force of the ground settling around it. By turning the pipe down with a 90 you do increase the friction losses in he system but relieve this leverage point which is a known failure point in swimming pool design. I hope this info is helpful!