didnt add garden lime

dickiefickle

12 years ago

Someone forgot lime in 511 mix ,what can they do now ?

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terrybull
12 years ago
scratch in on the top as deep as you can and water. it will work its way down.
Spongey600
12 years ago
i also forgot to add Lime, i was told to either scratch it in(but it takes time to break down to calcium/magnesium) so what i am doing is i mixed lime with vinegar in a cottage cheese container(the reaction releases a gas so dont cap the container for awhile or you will end up with a mess in the fridgelike me!) what the vinegar does it break the lime up and make the calsium/mag avail after the fizzing stops. and the vinegar will only react with so much lime, all you have to do is replenish the vinegar till all the lime is gone, then make more. i just stir it up before adding to water.(which also contains magnesium) and adding 1 tbsp of acetate and 1-2tblsp vinegar/ gallon to assist in adding acidity to the soil.

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If you're using fertilizer that is intended specifically for tomatoes, that will have enough calcium in it. I have never added lime to my containers. Calcium uptake can suffer in soil that is too acidic or too alkaline, so if working with a commercial pH-balanced mix, I would personally not add amendments that can significantly alter pH, such as lime. I've only had BER issues with one of my container varieties, which is a variety known for early BER problems even when grown in-ground. I've grown other relatively large-fruited varieties, like some of the Dwarf Project types, New Big Dwarf, etc. and never had BER issues in containers despite never adding lime. The biggest issues causing BER are 1) early fruits often have BER anyway, no matter what you do, and plants often just grow out of it 2) improper watering (both too soggy and too dry can cause BER) 3) lack of proper fertilization (too many people underfertilize, others use too much N, which can lead to big, quick-growing plants which then have problems catching up with transporting calcium to all parts of the plant) 4) varieties doomed to suffer BER, like Roma and many other elongated pastes Container-growing just exacerbates the above, as the container is a smaller growing environment which has little real wiggle room/buffer when it comes to temp, water, and nutrients, so stresses are magnified. The only other real difference is that, unlike growing in-ground where calcium deficiency in soil is very rare, a fertilizer including an easily utilized form calcium is key. A well-draining mix which I water frequently and fertilize frequently at low dilution works best for me (not talking about sub-irrigation containers, which are a separate deal and one with which I have little personal experience).
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Tox....lol I love it! Kim, here you go! Thanks for being willing to look at it. Far as compost: I am still working on getting that going. I used to put shredded leaves down year but stopped b/c a previous report showed the all boxes but the front yard box had WAY too much phosphorus and potassium, and it was suggested by someone that might be way. The potassium and phosphorus is still slightly high in several boxes, but it is MUCH better now. This is the hydrangea box. They are SUPER happy there, so I have no concerns. I am going to raise the pH, though, so the hydrangeas will be less pink. This one has the lowest pH, so good thing the hydrangeas are in it. lol This is the corner box. Things are mostly good here: This is the front yard box. It is the newest one and is only a year old. It is my best box. I wonder if it is because the pH is so much higher? It has never had shredded leaves put down in it. This is the left box. Some things may be a little small, but it is also shadier than the other boxes. This is the right box. Several plants are far too small, though it still works very well, overall. Some stuff doesn't bloom, though. These are the sidewalk boxes. Overall, things are still good...but these do have several plants that are too small, also, or do not bloom well/at all.
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dickiefickle
Original Author
12 years ago
How often or is this a one time deal ?
Acetate,don't understand? sodium acetate ?(vinegar and
baking soda ) soap ?
Hope this is a one time thing
Spongey600
12 years ago
I was told by a long time member on here that since i forgot to add lime to the mix i made, everytime i water to add the liquid portion of mixing Garden lime with Vinegar. the vinegar makes the Ca/Mg avail for uptake right away, where if you mix it in the soil you are supposed to wait a couple weeks to use the mix as you need the lime to breakdown.

So each time i water I add 1Tblsp Vinegar, 1Tblsp acetate mixture. and every other time i water i fert at 1/4 strength with Foliage pro.
tc88
12 years ago
I think you guys are unnecessarily complicating things. The main purpose of lime is to offset the acidic effect of the large amount of bark mulch used. If you mix with vinegar, you are neutralizing that aspect. Granted vinegar will decompose over time and the pH will be back up, but that will take several weeks too.

Regarding providing Ca/Mg, those are trace elements and plants only need a tiny amount. The amount supplied through lime is going to last a long long time. Whatever dissolved in the first watering probably is already enough.

So I would just drop them on the surface, maybe water in a little bit. But that would be it.

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