I have some upright rosemary that should be finished rooting in a couple of weeks. I would love to trade for one of your flowering quince. Please email me if you are interested. Thanks, Ibartoo

Thanks so much!! Was beginning to think no one was gonna answer...lol. Kinds figured as much about surviving. It started from only a one quart pot and in just a few years......wow! Can see why it's considered invasive...lol. So far it plays nice with my other plants and garden scheme...cottage like. But will remember the vinegar trick! Thanks again!!! Bonnie

I find the changing topic and confusion interesting since 4 or 5 varieties of the evening primrose grow wild on my land. Telling the O speciosa from the O kunthiana can be hard.. It is confusing out there in the front field. Normal wild Oenothera Kuntianas are a paler pink than this magenta creation which has been hybridized and jerked with. The OP plant is not representative of the wild plants around here. The spreading characteristic of O. speciosa will drive the orderly gardener bonkers but the one who likes to work with plant characteristics in their design will appreciate this and the accidents that enrich garden.. My first garden that I saw with it used years and years ago was a really sensitive example of plant characteristics used appropriately. It was a tall bluff with a rock wall about 6' tall and the "lawn"(I use that term loosely) rose in a grade above i the wall. The owner mowed the grass pretty short in early spring and the grass grew and the EP grew up through it and the rocks on the wall making a beautiful cascading effect and covering the grass completely where it grew . Then as summer drew near it disappeared and the owner mowed her grass again. It made me search it out years ago and , believe me, at the time it was not very available in the trade, except by raiding the fields. I got my start from her of the tall bluff. Here in Texas The pink Oenotheras are "spring ephemeral of sorts. It goes dormant and disappears with the beginning of EARLY summer.. SO do not get this plant and expect it to last through the summer. This is its behavior in Texas. Maybe it's behavior is different in Concord New Hampshire or Lansing Michigan. Heat does make it go away till the next year..Also the caterpillars love to eat its foliage. They are long gone in my garden right now. I like the idea for this "does your garden look like your character Thread". YES, YES AND YES. Mine is as disorderly as I am, absolutely.Good thread idea. I think that all should have tolerance of the latin name/common name confusions. Besides, Those latin names change with the mounting regularity these days pushed by the committees of arguing scientists. They do help but there is as much name confusions in them as there is in the common names. Eupatorium, ageratatina, conoclinium , what is it? I asked a salvia guy was it Salvia Reptans or Salvia leptophylla . It seemed like a simple question but he could not give me a simple answer because he did not know what one was the days right one today. The committees were't clear in their last statement... We can educate people to loose their fear of the mysterious latin name. and we can be tolerant of those like me who abuse all language that is given them. I think it is a mark of an intelligent person who is fluid and fills in the blanks and looks for the intended meaning , even when it is through muddy waters. - Mara, Queen of the Maraprop ( I mean malaprop)

Hi Amaryllis, I donÂt know for sure if itÂs the low humidity around here that messes with it or what. In places like San Francisco IÂve seen it blooming along the roads for most of the summer. Possibly itÂs the really hot temps we get. SF never gets this hot. There were a couple plants of it in at this house when I moved in, and even tho I knew it was invasive, I let it go the first year and didnÂt try to pull it out or roundup it. The next spring it came up EVERYWHERE, including on the other side of a 3' sidewalk. Again it was so pretty when it started to bloom so early that I left it go. It bloomed for maybe a month and then quit and gradually became completely covered with powdery mildew. By then I had resolved to get rid of it before it took over the rest of my front yard, but the mildew was so bad I didnÂt really think there was enough leaf left to spray the roundup on, but I did it anyway, fully expecting to need to use roundup over and over to get rid of it. Much to my surprise, that one application killed almost all of it. I think the mildew had it so weakened that the roundup was able to easily knock it outÂto my great delight! Mine was in a bed that was watered regularly, so the fact that youÂre not watering is not what is causing the problem. And if itÂs red spots on the leaves youÂre talking about, that seems to be normal for it. When I was selling it, the plants usually had red spots on the leaves. I donÂt believe itÂs any sort of a disease or problem. But, my real question is, are you sure you want to keep it? To say itÂs invasive is almost an absurd understatement. Anything that can come up on the other side of a sidewalk is downright dangerous! This year (two years later) IÂm still pulling out small pieces of it on the "other side" of the sidewalk where I didnÂt spray as well with the roundup. And there have been other threads around here where people were begging for help with getting rid of it. It only takes a year or two to go everywhere! So seriously consider if you want to keep it or not, and if you do decide to get rid of it, spraying it now while it has the mildew will probably help you get rid of it if my experience is any indication. If you do decide to keep it, you might try cutting it all the way down and I think it may rebloom when it comes back. DonÂt know if the mildew will come back when it starts growing again, thoughÂI suspect it will. Good luckÂwhichever way you decide to go, Skybird