Hi! I checked out your lists and I have the following that are on your wants list:zone 8 roses, tons of flower bulbs, Hostas, Border Dahlias, Lily-of-the-valley, Lots of ornamental grasses, sedums (Angelina, Black jack, Blue Spruce, etc), 8-9 diff. Peonies, Periwinkle, and loads of Iris. Have a look at my trade list...if there's something you're looking for & don't see it, please ask. The list constantly needs updating. Of your haves list, I'm interested in: Rooted: Witch Hazel, Red Spider Lily, Sassafras; cutting: Rosa carolina. I look forward to hearing from you! Lily

This nursery is not marketing to specialists or collectors, and not even to the gardening public, it's marketing to the GENERAL public. As such I expect a certain amount of marketing hype and "rare" and "exotic" are just marketing terms. I do see plenty of misinformation coming from such companies--those marketing to the general public frequently don't provide the botanical names of their plants, although I would never order from such a company--but it's hard to tell if it's anything truly underhanded or just simple ignorance on their parts. And let's face it, much of the general public doesn't really want or care about the botanical names, they just want their snapdragons and geraniums. Think about various plants called "foxglove" in the trade, like Ceratotheca and Rehmannia. Is it unethical to call those things "South African foxglove" and "Chinese foxglove" when they are not Digitalis? Mass-marketers will ALWAYS go with a more familiar name, even if it's not entirely accurate. "Elephant Ear" sounds more glamorous, more familiar, and more user-friendly than "Caladium". That's precisely why I see websites like Gardenweb and Garden Watchdog as being so valuable: they provide a way for us to educate ourselves and each other, and to help us steer clear of the unethical businesses, and provide information to those who are a little less horticulturally literate. If this is really a shady or unethical nursery, the buyer feedback on Ebay will eventually catch up with them. But so far their customers seem pleased, and for better or for worse in business, that's the bottom line. BTW is that black-leafed elephant ear really 'Black Magic'? Who knows. I would be VERY cautious about identifying any unlabeled plant with a cultivar name (and especially from a photo only). This name has been applied to at least a couple of different dark-leafed clones in cultivation; plants I got as 'Black Magic' from two different sources turned out to be what Plant Delights is calling 'Black Runner'. A couple of other names are being thrown around and who knows how many dark-leafed cultivars there really are, and what the proper names for each of them are.

Hmm, I'm coming to this thread quite late in the game . . . But, if you're still looking, I have some fun stuff you might like. I have lots of big white callas (the traditional callas that get to about 3'-4' tall), fragrant yellow ginger (Hedychium flavescens), lots of Red Hot Pokers, white Lily of the Nile (Agapanthus) and other things on my trade list. Let me know if any of this sounds tempting to you. Thanks! Chris - THGA Here is a link that might be useful: My Trade Page

these are all gone. Thanks!