^^^^^THIS! When you get your information from only one news source, you only hear what they feed you. That one news source is the only one not providing all the information. But if you only get information from that one source, of course you don't really understand what's at stake.

Double and triple healthcare costs if the heathcare subsidies aren't extended.

So we're either going to starve millions of people or kick them off of their heathcare.

What a choice 🤬

Edited: And if you are fully aware of the issues and don't care if millions are going to be kicked off their heathcare when their premiums double and triple, and people end up losing their heathcare, shame on you. But you got yours, right?

Republicans are voting to open it. But they can’t fund medical care for illegal aliens while fighting to secure borders — that’s a conflict Democrats created. Republicans must stand by the values they were elected to protect.

The ignorance on this thread just keeps getting worse and worse

Illegal aliens aren't eligible for the heathcare that's in question. If an illegal alien is injured and goes to the ER for treatment, yes, they get treatment. You know, that darn pesky Hippocratic oath.

Illegal aliens aren't eligible to sign up for a heathcare plan. They can't enroll in health insurance plans.

The heathcare subsidies are for everyday Americans who purchase health insurance. The prices of them will skyrocket if the subsidies for them that had been in place since 2021 (I believe that's the correct year) are not renewed.

From Healthcare.gov - a government website. It explains who is eligible for heathcare plans. No where does it state that illegal aliens are eligible.

https://www.healthcare.gov/immigrants/

Undocumented people do not get Medicaid ir Medicare or free health care nor are the Ds asking for that. The only exception is the law that requires every human with emergent medical needs be treated if they show up at an ER. But apparently some of you would prefer someone die at the ER because the medical staff must refuse to treat them. That would include a child injured in a car accident or a farmworker with a critical injury. The dollar amount of these treatments is miniscule as a percentage of the budget. The inhumanity is shocking in those who think that life saving be denied.

This thread is veering towards deletion. This red herring, amplifying xenophobia, that's being used to keep people divided, is a lie - because there is no legitimate excuse for refusing help for millions of everyday American citizens to afford food and healthcare.

It's a.k.a. a wedge issue.

Cruelty is the goal.

Republicans must stand by the values they were elected to protect. This is NOT a surrender.

This is a NEW Wall Street Journal headline:

Emboldened Democrats Set to Block New GOP Proposal to End Shutdown

It would be a shame to delete such an important issue. But unless there is personal bullying going on I'm not going to delete it. Carol makes good points, but realize that the xenophobia is real, some people actually think this way.

Oly, exactly. The D's want the heathcare subsidies extended for people who are eligible to purchase a heathcare care plan. They are not requesting illegal aliens be given that heathcare.

All of us may know people who purchase their insurance from the heathcare exchange. Those people we may know - famiily, friends, neighbors - are in jeopardy of losing their coverage if the subsidies aren't extended because the costs for them will increase significantly from what they have been paying.

That is the issue that the D's are holding out for. Not heathcare for illegal aliens.

You okay if people you may know lose their heathcare because the cost of it becomes unaffordable???

Oh pish, they can still get covered - at 2 or more times the cost now, so it's all good, right? That's their choice, right?

And where, after so many years of empty promises, is the alternative plan to serve people's healthcare needs? Those guys basically saying, "trust us" have yet to deliver ANYTHING viable, and the ACA has been on their chopping block since the start.

And I meant deletion by mods.

I’ll comment one more time:

Ever heard this phrase? ”One nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE ……”

Anyone emphasizing/encouraging division is NOT working in our best interests.

^^^and I'm glad those people have been brought to the surface. Not my kind of people. Good to know who has such differing values than I do. Starving people or kicking them off their healthcare is cruel. Happy to know who to avoid.

Ever since the ACA was passed certain of our congress and even our president have been trying to eliminate it.

Saying that Democrats are trying to get illegals included in our health care programs like Medicaid and Medicare does not make it true. What would the motive be in spreading this misinformation?

The present administration wants to return most subsidies for the poor to individual states. They would have to be paid for by each state. Your average Blue state could do this and maybe even save money since they would not be subsidizing the so called Taker States. Those are states that get more federal assistance than is supported by the taxes they pay into federal coffers. So guess who will suffer the most under these proposed rules. I think this is a terrible idea. I do not want poor people doing without necessities in the richest country in the world because people believe lies.

patriciae

A quick scan of other headlines... the average age of a first-time home buyer is at a record high, while somehow Elon Musk warrants a trillion dollar salary. Yet they have us believing our problems are illegals mooching off our healthcare system, and lazy welfare mothers buying a $7 pumpkin off taxpayers' backs. We really are a nation of idiots.

I ran across this below the other day. It would be humorous if it wasn't so painfully true.

Excuse me, but what values are being protected exactly? As far as most of us can see, it's the value of cuts to revenues, to benefit a select few, who truly do not need any more of the enormous wealth they have now.

It seems many people don't realize the knock-on effect this has for businesses and our economy as a whole.

For those of you who say we can't afford to provide healthcare to illegals, please give me some numbers: how much are we paying now for illegals to get healthcare? How much would it be under the democratic plan and what's the difference? Maybe we can shed some more light and less heat...

Be careful about mentioning that the mods might get at this thread. I was chastised royally for saying that on a previous post and then blamed for somehow being the reason.that it was pulled, as if I had that power and despite other people saying the same thing. If it's gone, she'll come after you, too. Lol.

Here are a few sources to start:

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/key-facts-on-health-coverage-of-immigrants/

https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2025/10/02/factchecking-on-medicaid-coverage-for-immigrants-government-shutdown-edition/

Considering what illegal immigrant labor contributes to our economy, we should be focusing on better paths to citizenship for those who want to work and pay into our system. As it stands now, what they take from it is far, far less than what we are led to believe.

Be careful

I think Carol was doing us a service. When the conversation gets too heated, a mention that the thread might get poofed might lead to a bit of cooling down where people get their ideas across without unnecessary verbal friction.

I like it that many fictional TV shows are integrating politics in a subtle way about immigration.

Thank you feathers, but I'd like to hear from those who say we can't afford it. I know that's the talking point which we hear all the time, but that's the surface. I'd like to have one of them drill down a little bit and see what's underneath that. They may be surprised at what they find. Even if they asked Chat GPT, they might be surprised at the answer the read.

Dems just offered to do what it takes to reopen the govt if the health care credits are extended for one year. Let’s se who votes to keep the shut down going.

^^^ yes, this is the only thing standing between opening the government vs keeping it shut down. If this proposal is voted down by R's, then it will be obvious that the R's don't care if healthcare costs double and triple. The D's are trying to prevent skyrocketing healthcare costs for everyone -D's and R's alike.

Edit: I just read that the Administration is going to start fully funding SNAP benefits for November.

Edit: I just read that the Administration is going to start fully funding SNAP benefits for November.

Only because they are ordered to by a judge, and the government has already appealed that ruling. Vance says he is contemptuous of that court's decision (yeah, we know) and says the court shouldn't be able to tell the White House what to do. Yeah, they should be able to do it when the government is breaking the law.

"Edit: I just read that the Administration is going to start fully funding SNAP benefits for November.

Only because they are ordered to by a judge, and the government has already appealed that ruling."

I'm fully aware that the administration was ordered by a judge and that the government appealed that decision. And I don't care why they are funding SNAP, only that they are.

"The US Department of Agriculture announced Friday it is working to fully fund food stamp benefits for November to comply with a federal court order, and the process should be completed later in the day. Earlier Friday, the administration asked a Boston-based appeals court to halt McConnell’s order, but the appeals court had not issued a decision by the time the administration said publicly that it was complying with his directive."

From the USDA Food and Nutrition Service U.S. Department of Agriculture website:

LINK:

Updated Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) November Benefit Issuance

DATE:11/07/2025

TO: Regional Directors
SNAP Division, All Regions

SNAP State Agency Directors
All State Agencies

FROM: Patrick A. Penn
Deputy Under Secretary
Food, Nutrition, and Consumer Services
U.S. Department of Agriculture

SUBJECT: Updated Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) November Benefit Issuance

FNS is working towards implementing November 2025 full benefit issuances in compliance with the November 6, 2025, order from the District Court of Rhode Island. Later today, FNS will complete the processes necessary to make funds available to support your subsequent transmittal of full issuance files to your EBT processor.

We will keep you as up to date as possible on any future developments and appreciate your continued partnership to serve program beneficiaries across the country. State agencies with questions should contact their FNS Regional Office representative.

Sincerely,

Patrick A. Penn
Deputy Under Secretary
Food, Nutrition, and Consumer Services
U.S. Department of Agriculture

" And I don't care why they are funding SNAP, only that they are. "

Fair enough. I feel differently, because of what it means for the future.

Only the "Indivisable" part keeps me from wanting my blue state to stop supporting the red ones.

Is there a map of US poverty?

"And I don't care why they are funding SNAP, only that they are. "

"Fair enough. I feel differently, because of what it means for the future."

I agree. They need to find a solution so this doesn't happen again. But for now, because we're seven days into November, it doesn't matter to me WHY they are funding SNAP, only that they are.

So you personally know mothers who are in such difficult straights that they need SNAP benefits, but wanted their kids to enjoy a halloween pumpkin......Maybe instead of getting angry at them, you could say "next year, why don't you save your SNAP for food, and I'll buy a pumpkin for you to carve with your kids". A small act of compassion that will cost you maybe $5 and help that acquaintance out. Or form a pumpkin carving group next holiday and share the cost of several. Instead of just getting angry at an acquaintance, why not see if you can help someone out someone in difficulty?

You used the word "angry" a lot here. Who said I was angry? I was stating facts. All I said was that that is NOT what SNAP benefits are for. That is it. I did ask earlier WHAT i said that was untrue. Still waiting on that answer. I was and am not ANGRY at them for doing it. In fact, that behavior is exactly what I expect. I can call either one of them when the stamps hit and buy them for 50 cents on the dollar so they can use the cash to get stupid stuff. (well maybe not THIS month) I have never done that, because I do not enable trashy behavior, and I and SO take care of own own needs with money we earn ourselves. But the opportunity is available. And not just with these 2 women I spoke of with the pumpkins. Between myself and SO we know dozens and dozens of people on SNAP, and yes, ALL of them will sell it to you.

I also never said that I want their benefits reduced or discontinued. (that is directed toward another commenter who suggested i did ) That will never happen even if I did want it. There are just too many people using it to make sure it is being used properly by people who actually need it. Its just one of those things you accept and try to stay as far away from the mud as possible.

This is just another example of what I mentioned above. I stated a fact and people who do not LIKE that fact inflate, exaggerate and twist what I say until it is not what I said at all, assign feelings and values to me that I never stated and then get up on that soapbox and make a suggestion of how I can be better. Does that make you feel like a better person?

For the record, these 2 particular women are not in "difficult straights." They qualify for SNAP because of their income and their multiple illegitimate children. That is it. Both of them are in relationships, though not married because that would affect their benefits. Their partners work, as do they, though they work as few hours as possible, again, to keep their benefit amounts up. And neither of these women are in danger of starving. Neither are their children, as they, their partners, and all their children are all obese. The only things they struggle with are self control and a steep staircase.

Why does everyone make the argument that pumpkins are cheap and therefore no big deal. In fact, not such a big deal that I should come out of my pocket even more to buy these people unnecessary stuff. If it is NO BIG DEAL, doesn't cost much, etc, they should pay for it themselves. Right? Oh no, can't ask them to do that. That makes to much sense. Everything must be handed to them or humanity is doomed.

My last check, which is a two week pay period, had 147 hours on it. A GIANT chunk of that goes JUST to federal taxes, from which these types of programs are funded. While not surprising, it is tacky and ridiculous to suggest that anyone is not a nice person for not wanting to give MORE AND MORE AND MORE of the money they earned that is left over and they actually get to keep. That does make me angry. Get off your high horse and over yourself. That 5 bucks you are suggesting I use to give MORE stuff to these women? I would much rather spend on myself and MY responsibilities. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. At least I am not shoving my burdens off on someone else for years and years and years.

Whew! for claiming to not be angery there’s a lot if anger and judgement showing (“illegitimate, obese, trashy behavior, struggle with self control and steep staircases). wiw, just wow!

Technically, someone can buy a pumpkin with SNAP benefits:

Yes, you can buy pumpkins with SNAP benefits because they are edible food items, but they must be for consumption rather than purely decorative purposes. To use SNAP, you must buy a pumpkin that can be used for cooking and eating, such as making pie, soup, or roasting the seeds.

Do you know how these women used the pumpkins? They didn't use them for pie, soup, or roasting the seeds? How do you know how the pumpkins were used? Perhaps for decoration after the insides were scooped out and used for food?

From the SNAP Staple Foods list - https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/retailer/staple-foods

What follows is an illustrative, but not exhaustive, list of eight acceptable varieties in the vegetables or fruits staple food category.

1. Potatoes (potatoes* or frozen tater tots*)
2. Oranges (100% orange juice* or fresh oranges*)
3. Tomatoes (canned tomato soup or sun dried tomatoes)
4. Apples (dried apples or pre-cut apple go-packs*)
5. Pumpkin (canned pumpkin or fresh whole pumpkin)
6. Bananas (fresh bananas* or frozen bananas*)
7. Lettuce (fresh head of iceberg lettuce* or pre-cut and bagged romaine lettuce*)
8. Pineapples (canned pineapple rings or fresh whole pineapple*)

I can't address the rest because the rest is just one big, judgmental, disparaging, hypercritical rant.

Words have meaning.

Illegitimate, when referring to children, are children born to parents that are not legally married to each other. That is relevent in this discussion because whether or not one is married affects whether or not one qualifies for such programs,and for how much. duh

Obese is a medical term that refers to the state of having a BMI over 30. People who fit this description indeed struggle with portion control, self regulation, and difficulty with physical activity such as climbing stairs mainly due to increased strain on the respiratory and cardiac systems.The people mentioned above all meet and exceed that guideline easily.

Trashy typically means of poor quality. Selling your government (taxpayer) funded benefits is poor quality behavior, IMO which I am allowed to have.

Again, more examples. Facts that one does not like is met with emotional, illogical foolishness. Punching the air. You have shown more anger towards people who do not fall in line with your view on things then I have for anything here.

And yes Sephia, they were kind enough to post pictures of the pumpkins, carved and sitting on their respective porches. With the pile of seeds scooped out and left on the ground in one of those pictures. For the squirrels i guess. And before they did so, they were talking to me about how they were going to get pumpkins to carve, and they were going to use their SNAP to get them. I ran into them at Walmart while I was shopping for stuff I paid for out of my checking account. Some family members of theirs (they are sisters) gave them the idea. Besides that, these two are not the type to go through the effort to process a pumpkin to eat it. You can get canned pumpkin and frozen pumpkin on SNAP to eat. That is how I know. Now what?

Ah, you edited your post to include that you saw the piles of seeds. Probably after you read my post questioning how you knew they had tossed the insides 🙄 Your original comments were just the italicized text:

And yes Sephia, they were kind enough to post pictures of the pumpkins, carved and sitting on their respective porches. That is how I know. Now what?

But you know for an absolute fact that the insides were not used for food? How do you know that? According to the government SNAP website, people can use their SNAP benefits to purchase a pumpkin. They have to use the insides for food. You know for an absolute fact that they just tossed the insides? What they do with the pumpkin shell after the insides are scooped out is irrelevant.

You edited your post again. Keep trying to justify that you originally wrote that you only saw the pumpkins carved and sitting on their respective porches. Next you'll be saying you are BFF's with these women and you gave them a recipe on how to use the insides and they declined 😂

"I was and am not ANGRY at them for doing it. "

Your use of CAPS says otherwise.

"For the record, these 2 particular women are not in "difficult straights." They qualify for SNAP because of their income and their multiple illegitimate children. That is it "

Yes, that's exactly what I said - low income and dependent children.

"Why does everyone make the argument that pumpkins are cheap and therefore no big deal."

What is no big deal for someone is a big deal for someone else. My guess is it's a bigger deal for someone on food stamps than someone who isn't.

" Oh no, can't ask them to do that. "

Sure you can, as can I. And if they were the ones to write in, I might do that. But they didn't - you did. So I'm making the suggestion that you donate $5 to help out an acquaintance.

" My last check, which is a two week pay period, had 147 hours on it. "

That's a LOT of hours to work - that's unsustainable. I hope it was an unusual pay period for you.

" A GIANT chunk of that goes JUST to federal taxes, from which these types of programs are funded. "

Yeah, a very tiny, tiny amount goes to SNAP. Most of it (over 70%) goes to various health insurance programs, social security, the military, and interest on the debt.

Actually Sephia, I read your post fully and completely the first time. I am one of the few here who can do that before responding. I was going to post the pictures i mentioned, but as they are not mine, I decided against it and just elaborated. The pumpkins had the seeds scooped out, they were sitting on newspaper and were carved and were placed on the porches. Both families (as i mentioned they are sisters), carved their pumpkins together. A total of 6 pumpkins. You can tell from the thickness of the pumpkins which was visible in the pictures that they were not used for food. I can call them if you like and ask if you want me to be absolutely sure that they didn't take the pumpkins back inside and eat them. They would probably laugh but I will ask if it will make you feel better about my account of their behavior. Or I can refrain and leave you all in unicorn land where you think no one misuses these funds under any circumstances, and anyone who suggests they do is evil. You know what? In fact I will. Please hold.....

" Obese is a medical term that refers to the state of having a BMI over 30. People who fit this description indeed struggle with portion control, self regulation, "

Yes, obese is a medical term - how do you know what their BMI is? You're guessing, because they look fat, and that's probably enough to be close. I'm obese. My BMI is over 30. I don't struggle with portion control and self regulation, and while I don't do well on stairs because of my knee problems, I have no problem walking 1-2 miles. Don't presume to know someone's health because of what you see on the outside.

" And before they did so, they were talking to me about how they were going to get pumpkins to carve, and they were going to use their SNAP to get them. "

Also says nothing about whether or not they used the insides, or the seeds. You're guessing, because you've decided you don't like their lifestyles.

" Besides that, these two are not the type to go through the effort to process a pumpkin to eat it. You can get canned pumpkin and frozen pumpkin on SNAP to eat. That is how I know "

No, that is why you assume - you don't know whether they cooked up the pumpkin or not. You're biased against them so you are guessing.

You seem to resent them getting SNAP benefits, but remember you too could get SNAP - you just have to change your lifestyle and give away all your money, and I'm sure you'd qualify.

"I can call them if you like and ask if you want me to be absolutely sure that they didn't take the pumpkins back inside and eat them"

Go ahead if you'd like. This makes you angrier than it does me.

I'm not naive. I know that people abuse their SNAP funds. That is a bigger problem and something I can't do anything about. I live my life and mind my business.

But I don't begrudge someone buying a pumpkin once a year for their kids to decorate.

And I know you read my post, as I read yours. That is how I know you edited yours to answer my questions.

TV,

My use of all caps was to emphasize an untrue word which was assigned to my person.

Qualifying for SNAP does not equal dire circumstances. It means you meet the requirements. You did not respond to the rest of my statement about their circumstances. Wonder why.

You suggest i give more money. I suggest they buy their own stuff. Only one is met with outrage. Its not nice to suggest they buy it themselves, but it is totally acceptable to suggest that someone else donate their own hard earned money?

It was not an unusual pay period for me. At least once a month I have to work like that. Sometimes more. And I do not mind because I would rather work, contribute to something, and take care of myself and provide for my future than be a burden. If I don't work who will feed other people and their children?????? Them? OOPs sorry i forgot that's not nice to suggest that people are responsible for their own offspring.

It does not really matter how much goes to SNAP. It is funded by taxes. As is section 8, Medicaid, and other such programs. And therefore it is open to comment and criticism by those who fund it. As is everything else funded by taxes. Period. You do not seem to mind popping off about it, and your taxes have nothing to do with it. And you do not seem to mind stating your opinion on what people should do with their money that you did not earn. So maybe you should not have anything to say about people who DO earn that money and pay those taxes into OUR federal system.

One of them is 500 pounds, the other who is a bit shorter, is 450. That is according to THEM ,so i suspect its probably higher than that. But i guess thats just a little chubby i guess by western standards. Their children are mini versions of them. And while i could get into why that is frankly abuse, i will stick to the topic at hand. It is impossible to be obese and healthy. It is an inflammatory state that causes stress on EVERY system of the body. Lie to yourself it it makes you feel better I guess. I think they would feel better if they went on a family diet plan and a nightly walk.

If your BMI is over 30, you absolutely have self control problems and portion control issues. No one has a super special body that defies the laws of thermodynamics. Sorry. Anyone with a BMI that high eats too much. That is a portion control and self control issue. I am sure your knees would very much appreciate if you changed that.

I don't care about their life styles. But I can observe them and report on what I saw. I was sharing an example using real life acquaintances of mine to illustrate a point. They can (and likely will) stay on the dole for the rest of their days for all I care. Like I said, some things about the state of things and the types of people their are in this world are things you just accept and try to avoid getting involved with. They are nice ladies. They are just not someone I would ever want to emulate as far as the choices they make.

Sephia: Quote from my conversation.

Me: Hey girl. I was just wondering something

Her: Whats up?

Me: Those pumpkins yall carved for halloween, did you eat any of them?

Her: The pumpkins on the porch???? HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL no! We don't eat that!

Me: Oh ok .

Her: Why?

Me: I was just wondering. I have a pumpkin someone grew and I was just wondering if you had any recipes. I don't think I have ever cooked a pumpkin. Just the seeds.

Her: Oh. ok. Well, no I haven't either.

Me: Alright then. That's all I wanted. I think Ill just put it outside for decoration.

Her: Ok Then BYE!

" You did not respond to the rest of my statement about their circumstances. Wonder why. "

Because, unlike you, I feel no need to judge their lifestyle. If you think meeting the qualification for SNAP isn't an indication of dire straights, you're being wilfully blind.

" You suggest i give more money. "

No, I suggest you give a gift of a pumpkin to your neighbours.

" Its not nice to suggest they buy it themselves, "

Which is something I never said

" It was not an unusual pay period for me. At least once a month I have to work like that. Sometimes more. "

I'm sorry to hear that. I've done 70-80 hour weeks, and they're not good for anyone's health"
"It does not really matter how much goes to SNAP. It is funded by taxes. "

I thought you might like to know how much goes to SNAP, since we were talking about SNAP. I didn't know that you don't like any of your tax money going to help people less fortunate than you. My mistake.

" You do not seem to mind popping off about it, and your taxes have nothing to do with it. "

Popping off about SNAP? My concern isn't with SNAP - my concern is with the illegal way the US federal government is acting; SNAP just happens to be the illustration in this thread.

" And you do not seem to mind stating your opinion on what people should do with their money that you did not earn. "

Correct - I have opinions. I offer my opinion, and people can take it or leave it. O comment on it. Would you like to comment on how I should spend my money?

" If your BMI is over 30, you absolutely have self control problems and portion control issues. No one has a super special body that defies the laws of thermodynamics. Sorry. Anyone with a BMI that high eats too much. "

Wow, thanks for the health work up. You have an amazing understanding of medicine and physiology of someone you've never met.

" I don't care about their life styles. "

Wow, you sure spent a lot of space and negative terms for something you say you don't care about. Trashy? Illegitimate children? Implying they're lazy and don't want to work more? Yeah, you certainly do care about their lifestyles.

i’ll take “Things that never happened” for $500, Alex.

Wow, you sure spent a lot of space and negative terms for something you say you don't care about. Trashy? Illegitimate children? Implying they're lazy and don't want to work more? Yeah, you certainly do care about their lifestyles.

I called their behavior trashy, not them. So are you saying it is perfectly acceptable for them to be selling their food stamps? Because that is the behavior i referred to as trashy? Would not surprise me. The poor can do no wrong. Also, their children ARE illegitimate. You are suggesting that that is an INSULT. As I stated above, (no doubt you didn't read and/or comprehend things you do not like) the FACT that they are illegitimate MATTERS to this conversation because it affects the amount of SNAP one receives if one is married. If YOU think being called illegitimate is an insult, that says a LOT more about you than me. I stated their status as a matter of fact, not a assessment of their character. And not wanting more income in order to avoid cuts in benefits is something they do not even try to hide. Both refuse full time hours at their fast food jobs ,even though all of their children are in school. These facts are from conversations i have had with them, not assumption I made. I do not really think they are lazy, as they do work. And working in fast food is not easy or fun. I think that they are products of generations of women who make their living on the dole, and are very very good at getting all they can get, because they were raised to be. Some people are happy with just getting by. Couldn't be me.

Wow, thanks for the health work up. You have an amazing understanding of medicine and physiology of someone you've never met.

You always get SO touchy whenever someone brings up accepted medical facts about weight. Its so predictable. Snark and sarcasm doesn't negate facts. Or calories! Sorry you're mad about it.

I have opinions. I offer my opinion, and people can take it or leave it. O comment on it. Would you like to comment on how I should spend my money?

Well that's rich since I am being bombarded by the snowflake brigade for expressing my opinion on an issue that actual affects me and my fellow citizens. And no, I haven't the arrogance needed to make such a suggestion with money that you earned yourself with your labor and is not handed to you. Since what YOU spend YOUR earned income is not subsidized by me or others that would be ridiculous do even suggest what you should do with it. And I certainly would not shame you for NOT doing with it as I would. That is beyond ridiculous to think that's ok.

i’ll take “Things that never happened” for $500, Alex.

Thanks for another example of the unhinged behavior here. Do not like facts , ITS FAKE!!!!!

TeeHee.

That's actually rather rude to call me a liar. I had to endure the screeches of a thousand children in my ear to get that confirmation. Well, maybe just the 4 that that one sister I called has. It sounded like a thousand.

" Well that's rich since I am being bombarded by the snowflake brigade for expressing my opinion on an issue that actual affects me and my fellow citizens. "

Yes, expressing an opinion comes with the requirement that you accept that there will be comments about your opinion. Consequences of our actions. I am happy to accept that there will be comments about my opinions; I don't expect other people to not share their comments.

You’re right, it was rude of me to imply that any part of your story wasn’t truthful. I apologize.

Consequences of our actions.

I could ABSOLUTLEY go to town with this remark as to how it relates to this topic, but I will let it go.....

" I could ABSOLUTLEY go to town with this remark as to how it relates to this topic ""

Ah, you think people are in total control of their environment and their bodies. I get it.

Found out today that the office at my apartment complex has set up a donation table. I took my neighbor on disability some groceries. Every bit helps, money or peas. Hope the courts help get food stamps going again.