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Looking for suggestions for kitchen layout ideas. I dont want an island sink and prefer it against the wall. Im not sure about the fridge location or that entire wall. any ideas?

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tracefloyd
last month
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Not a pro but I like that people can easliy grab something from the fridge without having to pass by the cooking area or the sink area.

You might consider a counter depth fridge with the island in front of it. Is there room to open the door?

I like the sink in the window.
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Jo Jarr
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last month
Yes. I’m not sure how to feel about the current fridge placement
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I don't usually see the need to swap out a fridge for a CD model. If it sticks out and cuts into a walk way I'd do it if I could financially. I would allow extra inches around it (even if a filler is needed) in case a future fridge is wider. the corners - I agree with rhome on being consistent with whichever type you use. I do think the diagonal corners cut into your space - makes it much more difficult to reach into those corners! The upper diagonals put the cab door smack in your face and give too deep of storage- where things are lost in the back. alternate upper corner cabinet - the pantry - I think it's fine and space like that can always be used. you can use the different doors/shelf areas to separate types of items - like canned goods in one, breakfast and other dry goods in another, 1 for baking supplies, 1 for snack items/juice/soda and /or water bottles. Unless you have a definite need for a counter space closer to the dining area I'd keep it as is. I don't think it's too big. doorways - foyer - I don't see the need for a wider doorway there (am I missing something?). will there be a closet in the foyer? DR/LR doorway - that might be a good idea to check out. make sure your table will fit thru the doorway w/seating also. or you might just set up another table in the LR lined up with the doorway. We did that at my sister's for holidays - there was a large archway between her eating area and her LR so we put another table in her LR running up to the archway so both tables were close together. It was a 'T' arrangement. base cabinets - drawers, drawers and more drawers!! why so few drawers? it looks like it'll be a big, beautiful kitchen with lots of cabinets and counter space! I'd put in more lower drawers tho.
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(With no actual layout posted, it's hard to tell.) It looks like you will have close adjacent counters across from the fridge for a fridge landing zone? In that case, pick whichever scenario gives you the most room between the sink and the range. That is where you'll spend 90% of your time in a kitchen and you need to have the most space there. If the sink is not around the corner on the other leg of the L from the range, then do your best to center the range between the fridge and wall as that is what your eyes will focus on. If the sink is on the L, and you have at least 48" of linear counter space between it and the range after shifting it to the left, then that would be fine. Just don't go under 36" of linear space between adjacent sink and range.
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I would try another full height, shallow depth pantry cabinet, rotated 90 degrees to it backed into the other pantry cabinet. Same thing with shallow bookshelves and with angled corner shelves. Also maybe try two full height, single door pantry cabinets or slightly smaller full height pantry cabinets with wine bottle cubbies between them on one side of the ref. It's really hard to tell aisle and such from a perspective drawing - they can be really misleading. So take this will a little salt. It looks like you have about a three foot aisle between the fronts of the pantries and the peninsula. Even if you get a counter depth ref, it will still come out into the aisle about six inches including the doors and the handles. Plus another inch or two will go to adding decorative panels on the end of the peninsula cabinets and the countertop overhang. So you're aisle may turn out to be more like 28" there. Can the ref be maneuvered into or out of its place without removing the peninsula? Can you open the freezer completely? Are you ok with having to close the freezer door, walk by it and re-open to reach something on the other side?
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tracefloyd
last month
If you can open the fridge doors I think it's fine. Not just for grabbing a soda but the prep cook can work the fridge and island without bothering the cook or dishwasher.
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PPF.
last month
New build or remodel?
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herbflavor
last month
i dont like the footpath to the sink. narrow aisle behind stools and every person ends up preferring path by fridge /stove.... [ because of retrieving from fridge too] and proceed to the sink area . solution would be a 2nd sink somewhere in the bottom half of island. is it a patio door on the right??
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bpath
last month
What are people grabbing from the fridge while you are making their meal?

Does snacks and drinks coming from the fridge usually go on a plate, in a bowl, or in a glass? In our house they do.m

Are most of your meals hot? or cold? And if hot, how many people are working in the kitchen, and who is the interloper?
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Jo Jarr
Original Author
last month
New build. There are windows on the side. We have patio doors right past the kitchen entrance in the dining area so I’m not concerned with having an entrance from the kitchen. Im going to look into different fridge styles to see if I can find one that doesn’t stick out as much.
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tracefloyd
last month
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Can the fridge go in the upper right hand corner? In the corner to the right of the sink. That makes more sense. You won't need a counter depth fridge.

It looks like there's room for some counter space between it and the sink. It's how our kitchen is laid out and works great.
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PPF.
last month
If this is the kitchen, maybe the entire plan needs a review.
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
last month
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I I see a kitchen that is 18 x 14 where dos the extra footage come from when you post the size on the drawing? You say 19 x17 how ???? I never plan a kitchen where the trip from the fridge to the sink passes the cooking area. I do not think the walkway in fronnt of the fridge is good but how big is the door of the fridge
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Jo Jarr
Original Author
last month
Seriously thinking about switching the sink for the side and having the range on other wall
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Jo Jarr
Original Author
last month
Patricia I believe your seeing the 13x17
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anj_p
last month
How do you cook and clean?

Honesty the ideal layout would be what you have with a prep sink on the island. If you switch the sink & range your cleanup space will be in the middle of your cooking zone, meaning anyone who needs to put a dish in the dishwasher will be in the cook's space. It's fine if no one ever goes in the kitchen when you're cooking, but it always seems like someone needs something from the sink. Your DW will also be in the middle of the cooking zone, so it will not be convenient to clean up as you go (which is my favorite part of having the DW out of the cooking zone).

That being said, why no sink on the island?

Definitely get a counter depth fridge.
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